Greatest ________ of All Time?

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  1. Hervoyel

    Hervoyel The Right Track

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    I was thinking the other day after reading one of the many Andre Johnson pieces out there about how great he is that AJ is clearly, without any doubt the single greatest Houston Texan of all time. "All Time" of course being 2002-2010 for us in this case. In fact he earns that distinction not only with pure statistical domination but also longevity and fan affection. If every team in the NFL had to pick one player who was "Mr. insert team name here" he'd be Mr Houston Texans.

    That got me wondering who the greatest player of the other 31 teams was. Some are easier than others but I'm curious what the rest of you think. Just to begin who is All-Time Greatest Houston Oiler? How about All-Time Greatest Tennessee Titan? I'm for naming two of them since the team has essentially two "stages" of its existence with little crossover there.

    I'm thinking Greatest Oiler is Earl Campbell and Greatest Titan is probably Steve McNair.

    How about the AFC South? Greatest Colt, Jaguar, Titan, and Texan. What do you think?

    (Do you go "Baltimore Colt" and "Indianapolis Colt" and split them like you do the Oilers/Titans?)
     
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  2. HoustonFrog

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    If I'm going Colts from the early days on then it would be a toss up of Manning and Johnny Unitas with Unitas getting an edge for me.

    Jags-Brunell, Fred Taylor and Jimmy Smith

    Titan--McNair or Eddie George

    Texans--AJ

    Oiler--Earl
     
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  3. Dutchrudder

    Dutchrudder COOL BEANS!

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    A few come to mind:

    Browns - Jim Brown

    Lions - Barry Sanders

    Patriots - Tom Brady

    49ers - Jerry Rice

    Ravens - Ray Lewis

    Colts - Peyton Manning or Unitas?

    Saints - I think Drew Brees wins now.

    Rams - Kurt Warner or Marshall Faulk

    Bills - Jim Kelley

    Packers - Reggie White

    Giants - Lawrence Taylor

    Bears - (lots to choose) Walter Payton, Mike Ditka, Dick Butkus, Refrigerator Perry

    Dolphins - Dan Marino or Larry Csonka

    Broncos - John Elway or Terrelle Davis

    Edit: Eagles - Norm Van Brocklin AKA "The Dutchman"
     
  4. Texecutioner

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    Interesting thread Herv.

    Jets - Namath

    Patriots - Brady

    Phins - Marino

    Bills - Kelly (One of the most underrated QB's of all time in my opinion)


    Broncos - Elway

    Raiders - Marcus Allen

    Chiefs - Len Dawson

    Chargers - Junior Seau



    Texans - AJ

    Titans - Mcnair

    Jags - Jimmy Smith

    Colts - Manning


    Steelers - Lambert

    Ravens - Ray Lewis

    Browns - Jim Brown

    Bengals - No one was good enough to be the best over the rest.


    I'll do my NFC picks a little later.
     
  5. Texecutioner

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    I don't see how at all Reggie White could be the best Packer of all time when he didn't even spend the majority of his career over there.

    Favre and Bart Starr were easily ahead of Reggie White and Ray Nitschkie might be ahead of Reggie White as well even as the best defensive player of all time that the Packers ever had.

    For the Packers though, Favre takes it hands down despite how badly people hate the guy now.
     
  6. eriadoc

    eriadoc Texan-American

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    I'm cheating because I'm including a couple coaches.

    Colts: Unitas
    Jacksonville Jags: Brunell? Jimmy Smith? *cough*Boselli*cough*
    Titans: Kevin Dyson (my all-time fave Titan)
    Texans: AJ, of course

    AFC North

    Ravens: Ray Lewis
    Steelers: tough one, so I am going to say Chuck Noll
    Bengals: Ken Anderson? Esiason?
    Browns: Jim Brown

    AFC West

    Broncos: Elway, of course
    Chargers: Fouts? Tomlinson? Seau?
    Raiders: Like the Steelers, too many. I say Al Davis because he represents what the club used to be and simultaneously what it is currently.
    Chiefs: Len Dawson

    AFC East

    Patriots: Brady *ugh*
    Jets: Namath, still.
    Dolphins: Marino, maybe Shula.
    Bills: Jim Kelly

    NFC North

    Packers: Lombardi over Starr
    Bears: Walter Payton
    Lions: Barry Sanders
    Vikings: for me, it's Alan Page, but I might be weird.

    NFC South

    Panthers: wow ... Delhomme? maybe Steve Smith?
    Falcons: Bartkowski, maybe
    Saints: it might already be Brees, but I'll say Sam Mills because that guy was the heart of that awesome defense they had in the '80s.
    Bucs: Warren Sapp, maybe?

    NFC East

    Cowboys: Staubach
    Redskins: Riggins, maybe ..... maybe Darrell Green?
    Eagles: Chuck Bednarik
    Giants: Lawrence Taylor

    NFC West

    49ers: Joe Montana, because he thrived in the WCO and started that dynasty.
    Cardinals: Dan Dierdorf? Vai Sikahema! ;)
    Seahawks: Largent
    Rams: Marshall Faulk, at the risk of brushing over years of team history - EDIT: changing vote to Deacon Jones
     
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  7. Hervoyel

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    See, I think a coach could be that guy. "The Greatest Packer of All-Time" could be Vince Lombardi I believe, I don't know if I'd pick him but I think a very good case could be made. Similarly with Tom Landry.

    I think it's interesting and now I'm wondering what the actual fans of each team would say. I'm thinking about going on a multi-board fact finding mission and getting a consensus from each teams fans. Are we really qualified to say who the greatest Detroit Lion of all time is? Probably not but Lions fans might be.

    Like I said there are some easy ones. Jim Brown for Cleveland comes to mind fairly quickly. I don't know if all Browns fans would agree though. Maybe some of them would want Bernie Kosar or Oz?
     
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    Greatest Oiler Campbell but George Blanda would not be far behind. Greatest NFL, Jim Brown. Greatest Houston Oiler and Texan fan would be me.
     


  9. Texecutioner

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    Well for the Lions I'd say it would have to be Barry Sanders or if you really want to go back you could say Bobby Layne. Layne was the last guy there at the QB position that was great and had that team rolling. He had a bad injury in the off season and the management panicked and traded him. Layne got upset about it and rightfully so, and vowed that that the Lions would stink for the next 50 years, and that 50 years just ended last year I believe. It's just crazy when you look back at how accurate that supposed curse was that he said he was putting on them because they have literally stunk for the last 50 years. Layne was a great Detroit Lion before being traded though.
     
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    What a way to stick it to an ex-employer.
     
  11. Texecutioner

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    Well at the time he was like what Brady is to the Patriots or what Manning is to the Colts and they panicked and traded him out of there just because he got hurt. They did Layne wrong actually, and he Layne was a hard nose tough SOB that didn't put up with anything. There used to be stories of when he was at Texas that he'd beat the snot out of his WR's for dropping passes in games. Lol! Layne was a hard nose QB all the way.
     
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    The 49ers is a tough call between Joe Montana and Jerry Rice... :hmmm:

    Any team with multiple championships is going to be tough, because they are most likely loaded with great players.

    The Cowboys is one of those. A solid case could be made for many, but I'd probably go with the all-time rushing leader in Emmitt Smith.

    I don't even know where to start with the Steelers. Geez, tough call.

    I'd probably agree with eriadoc's list for most of them.
     
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    Settle the Niners question by just inserting the coach: Bill Walsh.
     
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    I can't argue with that! :bravo:
     
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    Sorry eriadoc, I'm lazy and piggy-backed your post and changed for my faves
     
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    Herv- man what a great way to get a debate going.. some teams are so rich in tradition, that you could go statistically or fan favorite...and both would be correct.. Teams like NY, GB, Baltimore Colts, Minnesota..ie, old skool teams have had greatness in the organization for most of all of their existance. Picking the greatest from them in our opinion would sure to get snickered at if asking your parents or grandparents on who was the best of times...

    Rep to you.. for some teams, there is no debate, for the rest, let the fun begin !!
     
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    Reggie White played for the Eagles from 85-92 and the Packers from 93-98. He was a probowler and all-pro 13 years in a row with those teams, but he won the super bowl with the Packers. Both teams have his number retired (only player in NFL history to have that), so it could go either way but I think he belongs on the Packers for this list. Favre certainly does deserve consideration for the Packers, but Reggie White belongs on this list somewhere.
     
  19. THE NFL

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    Manning over Unitas and it isnt close. Manning may be the greatest QB to ever play the game.


    Titans- McNair

    Oilers Earl

    Texans - AJ (not close)
     
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    I think that if you are going to split the Oilers/Titans then you have to split the Balt./Indy Colts and the Clev. Browns/Balt. Ravens/Clev. Browns and the LA Rams/ St L Rams
     

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