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FIRE BILL O'BRIEN NOW!!!

Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by Carr Bombed, Sep 16, 2018.

  1. gary

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    How many more days until training camp?
     
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    I'm sure he hated him in otas. The question is if he hated him at the time of signing.
     
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    Who knows, but I don't think he was really on board with the signing either. I don't know many coaches who would be on board with signing a QB to a huge contract when they have never had a meeting with the guy to learn his football acumen.
     
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    I agree but then we're talking about OBrien here. He saw mallet for years and said "yep, he's my starter"
     
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    To be fair Mallet would have been a great QB had he just learned to have a softer touch at times..........and spot receivers...........and watch for defenses...........and to be a mature adult...........and how to change the batteries in an alarm clock. Other than those minor flaws though he could have been a great QB.
     
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    So sold on Mallet that instead of trading a 3rd for him during the draft to get him before OTA's and TC he waited until after the preseason so we could get him for a conditional 6th, and then the next year brought in Hoyer to compete with him and chose Hoyer as his starting QB to begin the year... I really don;t think he was enamored with Mallet, probably was just a QB with the tools you want who knew his system that could be acquired cheaply
     
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    Then resigned him for another year and named him starter at some point the next year also. And got rid of Keenum to make room for him.
     
  9. Shishkabob

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    OMG they got rid of the goat Case freakin Keenum???? Just shut the team down right now

    Yea they re-signed Mallet to a cheap prove it deal, not exactly indicative that OB was fully sold on him, and you are right he did pull Hoyer and started Mallet for a bit, then apologized to the team for the mistake he made with his judgement. Like how you are phrasing it makes it sound like he expected Mallet to be his next Brady, and how it actually played out proves quite different.
     
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    Keenum isn't great, but he's way better than Mallet. Not sure what's up with O'Briens talent evaluation skills.

    O'Brien has made several of these judgment mistakes.
     




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    Too long.
     
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    He was only going to carry 3 Qbs, Fitz was the 1 getting paid an declared starter, Savage was the newly drafted rookie, and Mallet was the guy that knew his system that had upside. If you're going to act like the Keenum today was the same QB as the Keenum in '14 you're crazy. Keenum was a BAD qb then, wasn't very good with the Rams, went and had 1 magical season with the Vikings then went back to being a bad qb. Let's not make this out to more than it really is, every coach wants a guy that knows his system pretty simple
     
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    The draft is only 84 days away.
     
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    I don't think Keenum is good, but Fitz+Keenum are much better than Hoyer + Mallet. If he can't even do the placeholder thing right then what can he do right?
     
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    Fitz and Hoyer were about the same here, but ok
     
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    Free Agency gets here 1st

    • Free agency and trading begins: March 14, 4pm ET
     
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    So let me start posting things that are in alignment with my hot take as well.
     
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    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sp...-Bill-O-Brien-wastes-his-chances-13487739.php

    The Texans had a three-point lead and with a touchdown drive could put the Eagles into a desperate double-digit deficit situation. Instead of attacking with a quickness, an almost standard coaching move on such a turnover, the Texans went conservative.

    While the Eagles went for broke all day (4-for-4 on fourth down) trying to win the game, the Texans were trying not to lose the game. A game that the Texans knew could lead to their earning a first-round playoff bye for the first time in team history.

    A dreadful rushing attack meant they would need to win the game through the air, but O'Brien tried to win the game on defense and field position. A game in which his secondary was so depleted that they had players on the field who were not in the NFL a few weeks ago.


    In the end, the Texans put together a spirited comeback and took a lead with two touchdowns in the final five minutes, before the defense blew the game. That is because O'Brien finally cranked up the offense. When the Texans were desperate.

    It took O'Brien too long to figure it out.
     
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