FIRE BILL O'BRIEN NOW!!!

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  1. steelbtexan

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    I dont think they're far away. They need to find atleast 5 upgrades this offseason.

    2-3 OL

    2 CB's

    WR

    Blocking TE

    RB

    If they can find a couple of OL/CB's and a WR I will be happy with this offseason.
     
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    Nope, Bob McNair was actually at fault.

    Hopefully Cal will be better.
     
  3. JB

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    Then he has to hold them responsible... if he didn't ask the question 'are the boys going to be ready Bill?' then he was derelict.
     
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    man if that ain't a :stirpot: post, I ain't ever seen one
     
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    Now we're 5 players away. Bwhahaha
     
  6. JB

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    Actually he listed 8.. and imo he's pretty spot on
     
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    Thing is not just "perfect" teams win SBs. Classic example, 2003 Patriots. Bobby Hamilton was a nothing DE with 0 sacks. Roman Phifer was an about to lose his starting gig 35 year old LB. Brady was an 85.9 rating QB who didn't even pull 2 to 1 TDs to INTs. Soon to be dumped 3.5 ypc Antowain Smith aka Alfred Blue, was their lead RB. They had no 900 yd much less 1000+ yd WR. 472 yd Troy Brown was their #2.
     
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    But they had what we hope we have, a HOF QB
     
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    I dunno but don't we have some measure of hope, maybe even expectations that 2018 6th round steal, 6'6" 280 lb Jordan Thomas can be that blocking TE along with his pretty descent pair of hands ? Wasn't he originally drafted to be that blocking TE ?
     
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    But he wasn't playing at that level yet. He didn't break a 90 QB rating until the next year and already had 2 SB rings.

    I've told this story before, but a couple months after rhe 2003 SB I was at Sam's Boat having crawfish. Smith walked by and I asked if he was Jonathan Wells. His entourage busted a gut but he ended up being real nice. Semi-blew his entourage off and sat down with us for a while. Talked about him wanting to go to Dallas.
     
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  11. maverick512000

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    While that is true in 03 Brady was only in his what, second full season? So he wasn't the Tom Brady we all know and hate of the last 10 years or so.
     
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    oh, but he was
     
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    3rd and it was his 2nd SB win (2001 was 1st).
     
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    No he wasn't yet the Tom Brady that gets entire rules changed to protect him or can't tell when his balls are deflated. Insults aside he wasn't yet the Tom Brady that makes being a QB look easy no matter what the defense throws at him.
     
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    Nah, he essentially play wr at miss st.
     
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    ^^^ This ^^^

    I have never understood the mantra that we need a perfect team w/ no holes before being able to compete for a SB. In the salary cap era, there's no such thing as a perfect team. That's why good coaching in this league is extremely important. They need to figure out ways to win despite the team's holes. Look at the Eagles... that team has holes all over the place, but Pederson is simply finding ways to win.

    I credit BOB for finding ways to win during the regular season, despite our team's drawbacks.
     
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    Tough to compare defenses to offenses...but lets look at the match ups that we can look at

    Watson < Luck
    Miller = Mack
    Joseph < Hilton
    Jackson < Inman
    Wright < Rogers/Inman
    Watt > Castonzo
    Reader/Dunn << Nelson/Boehm/Glowinski
    Clowney > Smith...
    Cunningham/Mercy < Ebron
    McKinney > Hewitt/Doyle
    Davenport < Sheard
    Martin = Autry/Hunt..being generous here b/c Autry owned Martin in the 2nd match up with 2 sacks
    Lamm < Lewis/Turay
    Griffin/Akins/Thomas << Leonard/Walker
    Nuk >> Desir
    Coutee/Smith > Moore

    I see 5 match ups tops that we outright win talent wise & in a few of those I was being generous with the = sign as Martin was owned by Autry in the 2nd match up. Miller was also non-existent in all 3 games against Indy this year, but we know that Mack shredded our defense in the playoffs. Clowney was also a non-factor against Smith in the last 2 games as well...I just awarded him the match up b/c Clowney doesn't really get a chance to match up with him all game long b/c he moves around a lot.
     
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    "Brady was an 85.9 rating QB who didn't even pull 2 to 1 TDs to INTs."

    I think it had more to do with their head coach.
     
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    During the game Saturday I recall the announcer saying Clowney should be embarassed how a rookie had blown him two yards back into the end zone as they ran at him to score.
     
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