Fight in TC

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  1. TEXANS84

    TEXANS84 Moderator Staff Member

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    While driving home this evening, I caught the end of 610am saying that there was quite a squabble today. From what I understand, newly aquired Victor Riley was one of the parties involved.
    I was just curious to see if anyone else listened to that segment, and can fill us in some more on what actually happened.

    Also, Todd Washington left the field today with his knee taped. Nothing to be alarmed at, said 610.
     
  2. royce1054

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    wow didnt even take him a week
     
  3. YodAa

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    How many players were involved?
     
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    FILO_girl I'm not here

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    Since I know nothing of our newest player (Riley), is he known for "squabbles"?
    Post more info when you find it 84. Or, anyone else here who comes across it! :)
     
  5. ArlingtonTexan

    ArlingtonTexan Moderator Staff Member

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    Let's see there are these really big, macho guys. These guys are in competition for jobs that pay at least $200,000 a year, if not mulit-millions of dollars. The occupaction they are engaged in requires them to be aggressive and physical....hmmm a fight breaks out between two of these 80 or so guys.

    Boy...that's really surprises me. :rolleyes:
     
  6. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    I've noticed a lack of fights in previous years. I think this is a good sign.
     
  7. ocd

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    dang straight.


    :drool:
     
  8. TEXANS84

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    Thats what they were saying on 610. That there is obviously more depth, and battles throughout. They were praising that there was a fight because that means that players are actually worried about their positions this year more than previous years.
     


  9. nunusguy

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    I don't think they have any knowledgable people on 610 on the subject of
    football. I think a lot of their subject matter and thoughts origionates from
    places like this Board. They can be entertaining but knowledgable, not really.
    As far as fights, you have to understand this is the NFL and a lot of the guys
    who make it to this level are pretty aggressive to start with and they get
    real aggressive when they are competing for a spot on the roster like they are doint right about now. I'm thinking Peek by himself was already in 2 or 3 fights by this time last year.
    And finally, you can get depth with mores bodies, what we need is
    quality depth. We got that in the DL with our top pick and at RB with our #3; but the the OL (to include TE) - don't see any quality additions there. And
    the LB corp is a huge question mark - talking about the starters.
     
  10. infantrycak

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    I'm not huge on encouraging fights, but like AT said they are going to happen. If it was going to happen to someone I like hearing it was Wand--maybe he is really trying to push hard on improvement this year.

    Last year there was a pretty good squable in training camp during LB on RB blocking drills--if I recall correctly it was between Peek and Norris.
     
  11. El Tejano

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    Well as far as the LB corp goes, the backups have a chance to make the starting lineup this year too so that should make for a real fight. The WR position I think is going to be good one also. With the exception of Andre Johnson everyone is fighting to either get a higher status or to keep their job. Bradford could get beat out, Gaffney has Armstrong down his neck and then you throw in Starling, Thomas and Mathis, and Swinton in there who are pretty much fighting for the #4 and #5 if there will be a #5.
     
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    The Texans carried six WRs on the 53 most of last season, (including Moses). They may do the same this year considering the depth they seem to be developing at the position. WR 5 and 6 are expected to excel on special teams.

    A lot can change, but as it stands now, after AJ, Gaff, Bradford, Armstrong, and Mathis, I'd say Swinton and Starling are fighting it out for #6. Mathis will really have to surprise for Bradford not to be on the final roster. I don't think Starling is ready yet to compete at #2 but he has the speed and quickness. His future will depend on how he adapts to return teams. Will we use our starting CB as a punt returner? I'm thinking yes. I agree that Armstrong is pushing Gaffney although I think Gaff is still ahead of him. They are very similar in what they offer. Gaffney has the hands and is more adept at finding the soft spots whereas Armstrong can make spectacular catches and isn't afraid to go into traffic. I like our WR corps. Hmmm, this topic might make a good article.
     
  13. nunusguy

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    Did you mean to say that Mathis will have to surprise to take Bradfords starting position ?
    Whats the inside skinny at this point on Mathis ? Is he
    more than a track guy ? Are the Texans impressed, upbeat about picking
    him, or the verdict still out ?
     
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    I think training camp fights can be a good thing, especially in this case. If Wand were involved, it makes it even better. Shows he's got some "fight".
     
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    That's where I was going with that, yes. I highly doubt Mathis makes that kind of impact at WR, especially early in the season. It may take a full season for him to get comfy. But ultimatley, that's why they drafted him ... as a CB replacement unit ... a burner opposite AJ (who can get open and can catch the ball, given Carr has time to throw) :rolleyes:
     
  16. El Tejano

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    I think the verdict could still be out on Mathis until the pads come on. I saw a segment on Fox the other day about Bradford and man he looked alot leaner and faster this year.
     
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    So who was in the fight? And more importantly who won?
     
  18. beerlover

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    since none of us have actually seen Mathis play its all pure speculation to envison his role with the Texans his rookie year. but what the heck I'll chime in my :twocents:

    first off the Texans already had a similar player last year as a rookie in Starling, I thought he showed some promise in the pre-season but he was never heard from agian except for special teams. now with a year of non-nfl game experience but being around the system and practicing he should be way ahead of Mathis at least in the beginning. from a size & speed standpoint alone they are almost mirror images of one another.

    secondly this is one of the more talented groups on the Texans, but even with another WR drafted the depth in other areas is catching up so on average Casserly has done a nice job of building depth. with the exception of LT & TE (both impact the OL) the Texans no longer have the look & feel of an expansion franchise. look for year 5 to find more fixed solutions with 1st pick a LT & 2nd/3rd pick TE.
     
  19. cuppacoffee

    cuppacoffee Resident Grouch

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    We NEED an enforcer type to return cheap shot for cheap shot when we play the Jagoffs. Closeline Carr, Leftwich gets closelined, hit our return man when he is out of bounds, return the favor next time we punt to the Jagoffs.
    Penalty be damned. No more mister nice guy. :highfive:

    cac :coffee:
     
  20. THEFUTURE

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    our how bout we just let them make stupid penalties, and the Texans play their game. Why stoop to another teams level, and give them field position, not smart. the best payback is winning the game, not beating people up
     

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