Fan Codes of Conduct vs 1st Amendment

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  1. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

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    Amazing what some attornies will conjure up these days? Why don't we have a flag burning at the playing of the national anthem?:spin:

    Code of fan conduct comes under legal attack

     
  2. jaayteetx

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    Really? Seriously? C'mon now. Guess I can just go screaming fire into a crowded theatre too, right? Why do they call it common sense when it is so uncommon?
     
  3. Marcus

    Marcus Ruthless pragmatist

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    Oh no!:rolleyes:

    Now we're going to have some oleo "constitutionalist" come in here from 'blah blah' land and rant that that this is more evidence that we're "living in a police state", and then rattle off some more lame Thomas Jefferson quotes.:gun:
     
  4. HJam72

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    As far as I'm concerned, the rules on the back of the ticket stubs should apply. You don't want to read them, fine; take your chances. You don't want to follow them, you shouldn't have bought the ticket.

    Society has rules, or it wouldn't be society.
     
  5. gwallaia

    gwallaia Moderator Staff Member

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    What a stupid comparison by Mary Frances Prevost.
     
  6. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

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    She was probably a cheerleader in college and would still be able to fullfill such ticket requirements anyway.

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  7. eriadoc

    eriadoc Texan-American

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    Since you like to link debate fallacies from Wikipedia, look up "straw man". There's a huge difference, both in degree and philosophy, between cops busting in on some unsuspecting family in the middle of the night and gunning him down vs. apprehending some misbehaving jackass at a game. Now if the cops had apprehended him, tased him, cuffed him, and then proceeded to beat him to death, we'd be damn sure talking about police state action. It's typical that you can't seem to grasp the very stark difference.

    The only part of this story worth considering is the "contract" entered into by using the ticket, especially when you consider some of the crazy crap they started putting into Fan Conduct Policies (things like you can't stand in the Bull Pen if it disturbs another fan).
     
  8. infantrycak

    infantrycak Mod. Staff Member

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    More importantly there is a gigantic legal difference. Cops busting in = government action. Chucking a jackass from a game, i.e. private property = not government action. To make a 1st amendment claim you have to show some sort of government action.
     


  9. Double Barrel

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    It's private property. Kick the jackass out. I don't see how the judge arrived at his decision.
     
  10. Marcus

    Marcus Ruthless pragmatist

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    Next time you're in Wikipedia, look up the word "bait".

    :fishing: I knew it wouldn't take long, you old negative-repper, you.:)
     
  11. eriadoc

    eriadoc Texan-American

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    So you're admitting that you're a troll? Even better.
     
  12. Yankee_In_TX

    Yankee_In_TX Dance Lindsay!

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    I didn't read that more than a few sentences. In a stadium, you are a licensee. They can revoke that license at any time for any reason. I think that is even in frin print on the back of the ticket.

    Once it is revoked, you are trespassing.

    Case over. Some lawyers make me sick. Yes, I am a lawyer.
     
  13. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

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    ArlingtonTexan Moderator Staff Member

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    Is San Deigo's stadium owned privately or publically?
     
  15. eriadoc

    eriadoc Texan-American

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    Who gets the profits?

    OK, OK ... I'm just stirring the pot now. :D
     
  16. czarleon

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    Well that put an end to that argument
     
  17. infantrycak

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    Don't know but it should be irrelevant because if it is publicly owned then the team is leasing it for a private event. Whether or not you are there is between you and the event sponsor which is a private entity.
     

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