Ex Bengal RB Shot Dead

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  1. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

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    The circumstances leading to the shooting appeared to be that he was purchasing beer for under-aged teens. The question now seems to be, was deadly force appropriate.

     
  2. cuppacoffee

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    "When deputies arrived at the store they encountered David Lee Turner, 56, coming out of the store with his 19 year-old son, a 16-year-old juvenile and bags of items Turner had just purchased, including alcohol.

    Deputies detained Turner and the two teens while they investigated the situation. According to reports, Turner first complied with deputies’ directions but then attempted to leave the area.

    When deputies tried to stop Turner from leaving, he fought with them, Sheriff’s reports stated."



    What situation?

    Exactly what was Turner doing that was illegal? The bag was in his possession, not the juvenile's. Bastids had no right to detain him. Probable cause my arse. Typical abuse of power.

    Bought two 24 oz cans of beer, that's a capital offense now?

    People who are not doing anything illegal justifiably resent being hassled by idiots with guns. Cops do it just because they can exert their power / will over you without serious reprecussions.

    Sound like the thug (cop) jumped to conclusions and used the first excuse he could find to shoot / kill someone.

    What's next, shooting people coming out of the bank with money in their hand? Probable bank robber?

    Cop should face a grand jury, second degree murder. Get him out of society.

    Tyrannical bastids. I hate cops.


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  3. Ckw

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    I agree with you completely. This kind of stuff ticks me off to no end.

    He shouldn't have been fighting the cops, but the cops should have never stopped him in the first place. While reading the story, I at least expected it to say the cops rolled up on him as he was handing alcohol and cigarettes to minors, but no. It says he walked out with his son and his son's friend. WTF?!?

    So what if cops get a call at a store I happen to be at with my daughter, and I walk out with alcohol. Have I just broken the law and am I going to get shot in the face?

    This crap sickens me.
     
  4. Blake

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    lol. A guy that had repeated run ins with the law is not a trouble maker.

    OK!
     
  5. Allstar

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    Wait, so he bought some kids beer (allegedly) and resisted the cops, hit one of them with beer, then gets shot to death? WTF?
     
  6. Ckw

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    He probably is but considering what the story says in that he was walking out with a 19 year old and 16 year old, it doesn't sound like he was doing much of anything wrong.
     
  7. Hervoyel

    Hervoyel The Right Track

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    You know, fighting with the police is never a good idea. Nothing good ever comes from that. The police were investigating what exactly? A bunch of minors trying to get adults to buy them alcohol? Is that correct?

    I understand why the officer stopped him. When the police tell you that they're not done and you aren't to go anywhere what do you do? I sure don't go until they tell me I can go whether I'm right or wrong. If I'm wrong then trying to leave is just going to make things worse. If I'm right I'll get my day in court and if I'm really, really right (and they're really, really wrong) then I might be looking at getting a lawyer and taking them and their city/county to court.

    I'm not going to try to leave and then fight with them. That's idiotic.

    Whether the deputy was right or wrong to shoot him I just don't know. I wasn't there and have no idea how the altercation went. Neither were any of you. I'm pretty certain that he's dead though because he grew impatient, lost his temper, and decided to get into a fight with a man who had a gun.
     
  8. Texecutioner

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    If he attempted to walk away from the police while they were trying to investigate what he had been doing and refused to comply with them to the point where he hit the officers with a beer can which is what is stated, then he asked to get shot. I wasn't there, and I would assume that shooting him probably shouldn't have been the first reaction from an officer, but you don't get to decide that when you take matters in your own hands with a cop. Once you assault them, you have waived any dictations on how that situation can go at that point. I think the amount of threads that seems to pop up over and over again on situations like these are good examples of that. You start attacking or putting your hands on police you get what you may not expect. I learned this stuff in HS and in some cases it didn't matter and I personally still had police put their hands on me, but if I've got to fight a battle with a cop, I'll do it after the fact either with a lawyer, through the news, or whatever creative way I can seek justice, but I won't ever challenge them physically. When you do that in many cases your putting your life on the line.

    And it amazes me time and time again at how common sense doesn't kick in with so many people in these situations especially after the gazillion stories from the news where you hear about people getting either shot, killed, or badly assaulted by police all because they think that they don't have to follow orders from police and that they can fight with them as if they are regular pedestrians.
     


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    At first reading it sounds bad, but lets remember that none of us were there at the time and we're only getting one side of the story told to us by someone else who wasn't there at the time. As for probable cause, yes the deputies had probable cause. They were called to the scene and it's their responsibility to investigate the allegations and part of that is detaining folks on the scene.
     
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    trigger happy cop. join the army if you wanna shot people bro
     
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    There's gotta be more to this. It's too bizarre otherwise.
     
  12. steelbtexan

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    While I totally agree with your post.

    I'm sure you would've handled this differently.

    Experience is the key.

    What's wrong with young police officers today?

    It seems like there's a testosterone problem.
     
  13. CloakNNNdagger

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    This story has turned even uglier.

     
  14. Texecutioner

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    You've got two sides to a story here. Hard to really make a judgement off of that. However, I don't see why the police had to execute the guy if they felt they needed to shoot him. Couldn't they just have shot him in the leg, in the foot? I'm guessing they put one in his skull or his chest. Why didn't they use their pepper spray or bust his legs from underneath him with a billy club? They need a very thorough investigation here.
     

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