Everyone in the Texans organization from top to bottom needs to be reevaluated

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  1. TexansFight

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    Texans fans have suffered over the past 7 years in watching atrocious football. I wouldn't wish the Carr, Capers, and Casserley Axis of Evil on my worst enemy.

    We literally had with Capers, Fangio, and Pendry, the most inept head coach and coaching staff in the NFL since Rich Kotite's reign of error with the Jets. Pendry's offensive scheme were laughably archaic and Capers was more conservative than RC Slocum.

    What Casserley did to this franchise with his drafts and FA signings was absolutely criminally negligent and inept. I don't think he could have screwed us worse if he actually tried to do so. I don't have to go through the carnage here since we all know what was done.

    Mr. Mittens IMO even under the best of circumstances would have never turned into a star. He redefined the position when it comes to poor play. No field vision, leadership, accuracy basically anything you would deem important in a QB. His only positive was that he was relatively durable.

    A lot of our beleaguered fans (including myself) believed we had a pretty good QB, GM, and coach since the new regime seemed to have a clue and made incremental improvements to the horrid situation the former regime left.

    Basically, I believe we were fed shit so long that once we tasted bologna we thought we finally had filet mignon. We have overrated what we have because hope is all we had and because we haven't seen winning EVER from the Texans. Let's look at the Texans from the top down with a critical eye:

    1. Bob McNair - its amazing how the business and fan comfort side of things are so good compared to the mess that is football operations. McNair believes stability leads to success. I agree with that for the most part. However, that is no guarantee of success. Look at the Lions. They have inexplicably stuck with Matt Millen for all of these years. Despite, this stability the Lions are as bad as ever.

    Bob, listen to me, if it becomes clear that Schaub, Kubiak, Rick Smith, and others are not the ones to lead us to the promised land make the move and get us the people who will. Don't stick with them just because that is what you think top franchises do. It's not. Don't make us languish like you did with the previous crew.

    Also, please dispense with the idea that we should only have choir boys on this team. Good teams often have a few bad apples if they can play. Tank Johnson and Pacman could have helped us a lot.

    Don't bet the farm and commit long term deals for those who haven't earned it (i.e. Carr's extension and Rick Smith's extension).

    Finally, I think most of us would rather focus on building this team properly rather than overspend for a new "face of the franchise" like we did for Schaub.

    2. Rick Smith - We have given him a lot of love and benefit of the doubt. I mean compared to the idiocy of Casserley, Rick seemed like a genius instead.

    Again, while he is an improvement, If you look at his record it is merely average as a whole. His free agent signings have been disastrous. Weaver, AG, Chris Brown, Putzier, and to a lesser extent Reeves have been a big bag of nothing. The 2006 draft was good. However, Amobi is legitimately a concern now as he hasn't done jack since midseason last year. This year's draft is TBD.

    The fact is this team still has gaping holes in multiple areas. This is year 3 in his reign. Rick Smith is not a great GM; a great GM would have more holes filled.

    3. Kubiak and the coaching staff - Its embarrassing how bad we have been outcoached so far. Our supposedly awesome oline coach got schooled by Dick LaBeau. The playcalling in the red zone today was bone headed. Our offense has taken a step backwards. It looks like our wunderkind OC is not ready for the job.

    The horrific clock mgmt and use of challenges is inexcusable. To not challenge the catch right before halftime shows a lack of organization and awareness. I don't care whose responsibility it really was to notify the HC, the buck stops with Kubiak.

    Richard Smith is the opposing offenses best friend. Horrible schemes and poorly disguised blitzes are his hallmark. We don't force the issue and merely react. MW in coverage 20 yards downfield is a joke.

    Not pulling an awful Schaub and putting in Sage in order to give the team a chance to win is so disappointing. That according to your own words the thought never entere your head is frightening.

    On today's game alone Kubiak would have grounds to get his ass canned. Put in the best players on the field and take away playcalling from underperforming coordinators. If not, you will lose your job.

    4. The players - Show some friggin pride out there. Someone stand up and become a vocal leader. We don't have great players. However, this is the easiest area to fix since our problems are systemic.

    5. Pro scouting and medical staff - heads need to roll here because the acquisitions of Weaver, AG, Chris Brown, etc. should never have been greenlighted. We seem to hold out hope for injured players in a far greater manner than other teams. Why did the team hold on to Charles Spencer for so long despite clearly having a career threatening injury that wasn't getting better and which was made worse by his lack of commitment to rehab.

    Our coaches and GM seem to get assurances that certain players will get healthy. We go into the offseason thinking those areas will be ok and address other areas. When these players don't play we are left with gaping holes. This needs to stop now.

    It kills me to say this but we look like a 5 win team at best. We are still closer to the bottom than being anywhere close to the top. Its depressing to think our only way out is to start all over again but that is the only way. Get proven established winners here (Capers an Casserley while experienced did not have a longstanding track record of success). Pay whatever it takes to get a Bill Polian- type GM and a proven winner like Marty or Cowher as coach.
     
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  2. TexansSeminole

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    Not sure I have read any of your posts before but this one is fantastic.

    I really don't have a whole lot to add so I will just leave it at that.

    :goodpost:
     
  3. Runner

    Runner Hubcap Diamond Staff Member

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    I found this an excellent summary. I agree performance needs to be evaluated at all levels. The time for free passes for persona or to give the new regime a chance has passed.
     
  4. dtran04

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    Man, the janitorial staff better watch out. Aramark needs to be included in the evaluation process too though. :)
     
  5. Corrosion

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    Good post TexansFight . :)
     
  6. TEXANRED

    TEXANRED Texan-American

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    For the most part I agree with your post but I totally disagree with this.

    For starters Rick Smith has only been through 2 drafts. I also believe that Weaver was a casserly signing. FA comes before the draft and Casserly ran the offseason after Capers got fired.

    Keep in mind that when Smith took over we were in Cap hell, still paying off Walker, Wade, Smith, and a slew of others that didn't work out.

    Green was a role of the dice, and we all knew that, including Smith. Also, the way his contract was front loaded with guarantee money was a great move and now with even further restructure it was genius. Cutting Green will not cost us that much.

    Chris Brown, Putzier, and others were all low tendered FA that were brought in for temp fixes that we were not able to fill in the draft. If we bring those guys up then we have to look at Maddox, Demps, Andre Davis, Dressen, Brisel, and others.

    The only real mistake was Schaub. We gave up way to much for a Carr look a like.
     
  7. Wolf

    Wolf 100% Texan

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    I thought Weaver was a Casserly thing
     
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    Watching the GB-Cowboys game.. it made me sick how the front four of those two ..get after it compared to our defensive mentality

    Even that 7th rounder that the Cowboys picked up last year showed push in the center of the line (forgot his name).. much more than we see from our guys
     


  9. Runner

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    If Kubiak was here it was a Kubiak signing - he had the power as soon as he arrived. It is disingenuous when the board claims that post-Kubiak pre-Smith bad signings were Casserly's and good signings were Kubiak's.

    This crew hasn't done itself a lot of salary cap favors - Weaver, Moulds, Green - even Jordan Black's little $1M bonus was a total waste that was easily avoided.
     
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    I thought weaver has been here for about 3 years,but if not is sure feels like it.


    edit , it was 2006 when we signed him March 12th i

    http://www.uhnd.com/articles/2006/nfl-irish/former-de-anthony-weaver-signs-with-texans/
     
  11. Runner

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    From the above article:

     
  12. TEXANRED

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    Its still not a Rick Smith signing and that is the point.
     
  13. TexansFight

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    Whenever it is a good pick in that 2006 transition year it is credited to Rick Smith and if not it is blamed for Casserley. If Casserley was the guy pulling the strings in the 2006 offseason then he should get credit for that draft.
     
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    All those signing were small in comparisons to throwing money at guys like Todd Wade, and Robaire Smith. Extending contracts of Seth Payne, Walker, Carr, and cutting players like Sharper, and Glen.

    No one is arguing that Kubiak has not made his share of stupid decisions. We are speaking only of Smith and the types of contracts that he has been able to put together.

    Even Schaubs contract is not that large. If we were to cut Schaub it would not cost us that much b/c his guarantee money is not that much.
     
  15. Runner

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    No it wasn't a Rick Smith signing.

    However, Rick Smith has made some bad free agent signings. His free ride should be over by now because he shares responsibility in for the Texans. This team is under talented and he's in charge of talent.
     
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    He does get credit for the 2006 draft.
     
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    exactly..only thing that baffles me is how Weaver still has a job with this team (besides what it will cost to cut him).. I am sure he busts his butt every day, but for the am't of jack he is making. I wish there was more production


    as my signature goes I don't know why our defense is so passive :lion: I mean yes the secondary is banged up but geeze

    and maybe it is just that after watching GB-Dallas and seeing those front 4 play, it was like a whole another level... and it is a shame being of what the Texan organization has invested in our own front 4 (besides Mario)
     
  18. Texans_Chick

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    Green's contract was a mistake. Even in foresight. This is a great article, if your definition of great is slamming your head into a wall repeatedly:

    Ahman’s Rush to Texans is Downsized

    It is not surprising to think that a RB who is over 30 with a significant injury history might have some problems.
     
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    I could see him with a season more or two before I kick the free ride thing.. Casserly overall left the Texans in a world of hurt .. I would look up the draft busts that the Texans had from 2002-2006 and see who is with the team, who is still in the NFL, and who is out of the NFL and It probably would make even Chuck Norris cry if he was a Texan fan.

    with that said..there are numerous holes that are still trying to be filled..
    But I am very disappointed with the team.. There seems to be no direction or identity with this team at this stage of the season
     
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    I don't find the $5Mish bonuses Moulds and Green signed small, especially for what they contributed to the team and the risk they were due to age/injury. Why not get a good player with that much money?

    I'm just stunned that Smith still has that much teflon left on him with such an under talented team. He's in charge of talent! Why make excuses for him?

    I guess it is a sign that things may be changing since "in Smithiak we trust" is no longer considered a valid response to such questions.
     

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