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  1. Grid

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    On ESPN right now (7:30pm 04/21)

    They are going down the list and saying who they think each team will take.

    With Alex Barron and Mike Williams still on the board, they have us picking David Pollack, and had a lot of nice things to say about him too :).

    Im glad the talking heads are starting to come around to our way of thinking.
     
  2. tiger06

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    I think that if we are gonna take Pollack, we'd trade down. I thought they'd go with Ware or Barron.
     
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    I almost fell over when I heard that. Id be extremly disappointed if it went down like that. Pollack is a heck of a player, but he is nowhere near the level that Mike Williams is. Peek is atleast as good a pass defender as Pollack would be and as well as an equally as good a pass rusher so I dont see that as a big enough need to pass on a player who could end up being the best player to come out of this draft. Of course all of this is my opinion.
     
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    I'm not...That means we're more likely to take Barron at 13...Usually ehat happens is the opposite of what they think is going to happen...If we get Barron, it's going to be a long draft day/offseason/season...
     
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    Actually Merrill Hodge picked for the Texans. I thought for sure he'd pick a "factor back".
     
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    I'm with Merril Hoge on this one. Mike Williams will not be that good. He is a media creation. He could be the Reggie Williams of this draft. All hype, no substance. Who would you trust as talent evaluator; Merril Hoge or Kiper.
     
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    Well I'm going to go with neither Hodge or Kiper as talent evaluators. There is a reason they're both "analysts", and not working in an NFL teams draft room right now.
     
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    i'd still go with Mike Williams, lets not forget he had 2 very productive years, he would easily be the BPA and cause bradford came back for just 1 yr for 800k it is a realistic pick.


    and if we decided to trade, we could probably get a 2nd and a 3rd to move down a few spots because williams value is so high.
     


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    Mike Williams
    G REC YARDS YDS/REC YDS/G TD
    2003 13 95 1314 13.8 101.1 16
    2002 13 81 1265 15.6 97.3 14

    Hype? No substance? The guy is talented.

    Reggie Williams
    Year G-S Rec. Yds. Avg. TD
    2001 11-10 55 973 17.7 3
    2002 13-12 94 1454 15.5 11
    2003 12-11 89 1109 12.5 8

    Williams has some good stats, I will admit, but I don't see him in the same category as Williams(heh sorry had to do that)

    Mike is a real red zone threat...and points are what matter.
     
  10. outofhnd

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    Merrill Hodge picked for us?

    The guy that scored 33% on his sunday game picks last year?

    And we take Pollack? someone give me the rundown of picks 1 -12 id be cussing at my TV if i was watching this.

    besides i see a lot of trades come draft day i dont see the talent as equal i see top 10 as just a nottch above the rest. and the top ten has a lot of the "final pieces" teams picking in the 20s desire. i did a mock and people thought i was nuts but we will see saturday morning.
     
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    The discussion about Mike Williams got pretty heated - Kiper actually believes
    he's the top players in the Draft while the majority put him at 20 in their mock. That's quite a range. Kiper's credibility is on the line Saturday for his sentiments about Williams.
    Regarding us using our pick on Pollack - I still don't know where he plays for
    us ? He's simply too small to be a downlineman in our D. If there was any chance he could convert to ILB - he is quick as a cat and probably has excellent lateral movement. And taking on offensive guards & tackles would
    not be a new challenge for him. Peek & Babin on the outside and Greenwood
    & Pollack playing the inside backers ?
     
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    V-letter...started all 11 games...All Pac-10 honorable mention...The Sporting News All-American honorable mention...second in the league and 17th nationally in total offense with 2,675 total yards and 243.2 ypg...completed 194 of 373 (.520) passes for 2,811 yards and 21 touchdowns...finished sixth in the Pac-10 in passing efficiency with a 127.46 rating...season totals ranked him third on the all-time one season WSU passing list and fifth in single season total offense...had seven consecutive games throwing for over 200 yards - Temple (273), Oregon (225), SJSU (355), Arizona (348), OSU (219), California (218), USC (314)...completed 16 passes for 355 yards no interceptions and four touchdowns against SJSU, setting a school record by throwing for 303 yards in the first halfÂ…broke Drew Bledsoe's record of 300 yards in the first half of the Copper Bowl against Utah... won the Pac-10 Offensive Player of the Week award for his play against SJSU...against USC hit a season high 27 passes for 314 yards and two touchdowns...at Arizona completed 22-of-37 passes for 348 yards, two touchdowns and two interceptions...his passing totals set a WSU record for sophomore quarterbacksÂ…ran for six touchdowns...earned six team awards during the season: Pac-10 Offensive Nominee - Temple, SJSU; Offensive Back - Oregon; Cougar Claw - Arizona, Stanford, Washington.



    Who is this superman you say? How can you get your hands on this awesome QB?

    hes living in a trailor park in Spare Tire, Arkansas. Name is Ryan Leaf. We can get him cheap.. and with college stats like those.. you KNOW he is the next Joe Montana.
     
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    I wanna know what were picks 1 -12 for the most part. Ive also learned when picking games do the oppisite of hoge
     
  14. Grid

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    Pollack would be an OLB. Yah.. he ran his 40 .3 seconds slower than Shawn Merriman (GASP!).. but that doesnt amount to much when you dont have to run more than 10 yards.

    he scored off the charts on the quickness drills.. I think that is more important to a pass rusher than 4.5 40 speed.

    Hes a prototypical 3-4 OLB tweener.
     
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    1. Alex Smith
    2. Ronnie Brown
    3. ...err.. Braylon Edwards
    4. Cedric Benson
    5. Caddy Williams
    6. Antrel Rolle
    7. Troy Williamson
    8. Aaron Rogers
    9. Carlos Rogers
    10. Derrick Johnson
    11. Shawne Merriman
    12. Marcus Spears
    13. David Pollack
     
  16. outofhnd

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    umm we wouldn't pass D. Ware for Pollack.
    Personally id like to see pollack end up in cleveland
     
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    I dont see how you could rate Ware so much higher than Pollack :).. if anything they are on an even playing field.. though I would rate Pollack higher.
     
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    Its not much Higher really but I love Ware's Speed, vertical, and wingspan. to me he is the top tweener in this years draft.
     
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    you can never have to many "factor backs" :thumbup it just that everytime pollack comes up, wingo will say how great he is and how he will make the play no matter what. not saying he is wrong about that, but it's just strange.
     
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    I wonder how much Pollack had to pay for all this public advertisement by wingo. :um:
     

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