End of year sack assignments

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  1. infantrycak

    infantrycak Mod. Staff Member

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    So here it is from Stats Inc. once again:

    Duane Brown--11.5 sacks, 2 false starts, 1 hold
    Ephraim Salaam--2 sacks, 3 false starts
    Chester Pitts--2.5 sacks, 1 hold
    Chris Meyers--0 sacks, 3 false starts (how the f'n hell does that happen), 1 hold
    Mike Briesel--2 sacks, 3 false starts, 3 holds
    Eric Winston--8 sacks, 4 false starts

    So, 32 total sacks. 26 assigned to the line. Leaves 8 for the RBs, TEs and QBs.

    Eric Winston had a rough year. Totally dominant at time, especially on rushing, and flat footed whiffing at times.
     
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    Winston for Left Tackle! :jk:
     
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    So how do those 11.5 sacks for Brown compare to an average LT?
     
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    infantrycak Mod. Staff Member

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    Poorly, but Alex Gibbs and the other coaches apparently love him and he has shown improvement as the year went on. For comparison, Pitts gave up 15.5 sacks in 2002 and reduced it to 5.5 in 2003 at LT. He certainly hasn't come out as an instantly dominant LT but this is the big jump off-season.
     
  5. eriadoc

    eriadoc Texan-American

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    I liken Brown's season to Winston's, actually. I saw some great things from both of them, mostly in the run game, but they had some rough patches in pass pro. Seeing Brown 20 yards downfield blocking for Slaton was freakin' sweet, though!
     
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    mexican_texan Furry Tractors

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    I don't think Winston played until his 2nd season. He says Duane is further along in his rookie season than he was his 2nd season
     
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    didn't two of them happen against the Bears?
    one time it looked like he moved the ball prematurely... the other time it looked like he snapped the ball late.
     
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    I saw somewhere a list of the LT's and sacks given up and Brown was tied for the worst. I'll try to find that list and provide a link.
     


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    Winston started 7 games his rookie year, and played in 5 others.
     
  10. b0ng

    b0ng Ooops

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    I think Browns sack numbers will fall just because he doesn't have to face Jared Allen, James Harrison, Joey Porter, and Terrell Suggs next year. Browns rookie season featured a metric shitload of elite pass rushers. 2 of those guys are candidates for DPOY and both posted sack numbers in the high teens.

    I'm not saying Brown is the second coming of Orlando Pace, because he obviously has a ton of work to do on his technique (Same to you Winston!). But I think we're going to see a significant drop in the number of sacks both of our tackles give up next year.
     
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    mexican_texan Furry Tractors

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    It was only two years ago, but that season is really hazy. It's probably me just blocking out that 2005 season.
     
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    The Pencil Neck Subscribed Contributor

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    There are a lot of things that a center can do to try to induce the defense to jump offsides and then there are just mistakes. You can doubleclutch the snap. You can move your body like you're about to snap but not. You can twitch your offhand or move your head quickly.

    IIRC, he got caught doubleclutching a couple of times.
     
  13. Lucky

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    The Texans play the Dolphins in '09. Brown will also have to face Vanden Bosch and Freeney twice. Plus a host of young pass rushers who are likely to improve. Both Brown and Winston will need to get better, and I think they will.
     
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    Brown settled down after the first four games, where he was overwhelmed. IMO, he performed as expected and should improve next season. Sure he had some bad plays over the season, but he also had some great games. I'm excited to see the progression he'll go through next season.
     
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    Runner Hubcap Diamond Staff Member

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    For reference.

    Taking into consideration he didn't play about a third of the downs, his sack and penalty numbers were worse than Seth Wand's. Wand was 12 or 14 sacks and three penalties IIRC. And Brown wasn't blocking for David Carr.

    He's a first round pick though, and that combined with no Joe Pendry should mean he will get a chance to grow into the role.*

    *I don't know what will happen if a player the quality of Victor Riley falls into the Texans' lap though.
     
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    He also had to face Vanden Bosch and Freeney twice last year. I am not overly impressed by him so far but he was thrown to the wolves with a pretty tough opening schedual last season. He was tested early and often those first four games before he had even got his feet wet. I am willing to give the man a brake on last year. Not that I have a choice.

    :fans:
     
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    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    Is Seth Wand even in the league anymore? Are we still upset he was cut or what?
     
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    I for one, wasnt a fan of letting Salaam take over every couple series. I say let Brown take his bumps now and get them out of his system. After all he is the future. The reality is Salaam didnt play a bit better.
     
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    He was with the Titans and I think the Jaguars may have used him for a week or two as one of their tire patches for their O-line.
     
  20. Ryan

    Ryan THIS YEAR

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    There is no way in hell Brisiel only had 3 false starts. Screw the statbooks.
     

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