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They aren't leaders... they want to win but they don't hold any weight on the head coach or owner.
Im not sure you would be qualified to say who isnt a leader on the team
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They aren't leaders... they want to win but they don't hold any weight on the head coach or owner.
Rick Smith has no power he simply doing what he is told. Hence why he hasn't been fired.That's because Rick Smith hates black people. :kubepalm: :wadepalm:
the fourth largest city in America should have more than one newspaper.I miss the Post, it was the better of the two papers IMO.
"They aren't leaders ..." you gotta be kidding.They aren't leaders... they want to win but they don't hold any weight on the head coach or owner.
Technically, he has done his job here. The back gets no additional yardage.Its sad to say the lasting image I will have of Ed Reed's time with the Texans is this:
:wadepalm:
Its the system man... gotta know and understand the system. .."They aren't leaders ..." you gotta be kidding.
"They don't hold any weight on the HC or the owner" ... ??? What does that mean? Not sure what you are getting at there.
So ... the new guy that fails to disclose a serious injury, misses all of training camp, calls out the coaches in the media after getting demoted is a leader ... but
JJ Watt, Andre Johnson, Brain Cushing and Duane Brown are not ....
We all know this franchise circles the wagons during hard times. So yeah, be a cowboy, not an indian shooting arrows.C'mon DB. The guy was completely stinking it up on the field. You know that. We all know that. So, don't you think he should be the one to talk about criticizing anyone, except himself?
If you're playing bad enough to get benched, discretion would follow to keep your mouth shut. Not really a hard concept to grasp.
That is oversimplification and poor logic:So the real question is not whether or not he should be cut, but rather why he was cut then. Hopefully it was because as a player Reed sucks and that means Bullocks, Marciano, Newton, Schaub, McCain, OC, and Kubiak. If it was because he spoke out, well that sends a clear message to players with character that we value stupidity and deceit over performance and winning.
Really? They didn't cut anyone contributing to the team, at all... I don't see any zero tolerance philosophy from that...A guy speaks his mind, has a voice of his own, lets his opinion be known and what do we do?
We cut and release him. 3 guys, two young talented players smoke weed (cigars whatever) and we cut them straight out.
This Zero Tolerance Draconian style Philosophy HAS. GOT. TO. STOP.
I could get with that if Reed had come out and said the Texans were outcoached because they decided to sign and play an old, slow, washed up, gimp hipped, sorry ass safety. If he had said those words, then I'd be all about him telling the truth.They didn't cut Reed because of his play, they cut him because he spoke out and said the got damned truth! This team has been seriously out coached this entire season.
Has this team been out coached? yes or no.I could get with that if Reed had come out and said the Texans were outcoached because they decided to sign and play an old, slow, washed up, gimp hipped, sorry ass safety. If he had said those words, then I'd be all about him telling the truth.
I already said - every time they put Ed Reed on the field. Or hired him.Has this team been out coached? yes or no.
Why do you keep mentioning that? They have been out coached, out classed and pretty much just outed all damn season long. Blame Ed Reed all you want but my point stands: he spoke the truth and some of you just don't want to hear itI already said - every time they put Ed Reed on the field. Or hired him.
Ed Reed did speak the truth. That doesn't mean it wasn't a good idea to cut him.Why do you keep mentioning that? They have been out coached, out classed and pretty much just outed all damn season long. Blame Ed Reed all you want but my point stands: he spoke the truth and some of you just don't want to hear it
This franchise is **** at this point
Is that you Malcom?Wow Texans are building a case when it comes to how fast they can release black players versus white players just sayin...
Was it a good coaching decision to hire Ed Reed? Yes or no?Why do you keep mentioning that?
So the janitor has been outed??According to justtxyank at clutchfans, credible insider, the way they handled the reed situation was not pretty and the football operations side along with Kubiak are in serious trouble, according to his source.
I was ok with the reed signing ESP after drafting DJ. I looked as reed as someone that could bring experience to a defense that will go up against Manning and Brady in the playoffs. That is when things countWas it a good coaching decision to hire Ed Reed? Yes or no?
Was it a good coaching decision to play Ed Reed? Yes or no?
When you answer those, you'll understand why I keep bringing it up. This team has been outcoached in part BECAUSE OF Ed Reed. So yeah, he spoke the truth. I just fail to see how that puts him above the fray in your eyes. Hell, firing his slow, decrepit, no hip having, sorry ass is the second best coaching decision the Texans have made this year. So maybe they're finally on the right track.
I never said it wasn't. Go re read my first post in this matter.Ed Reed did speak the truth. That doesn't mean it wasn't a good idea to cut him.
Same here: go re read my original post. It doesn't put him above it but I DO have huge issues with people acting like "oh its about time he sucks!". He spoke the truth and got cut because of it yet Schaub, Marciano, Newton, Kubiak, Philips, fat kicker, Reed/Mercilus,.....(need I keep going?) just get a damn pass.Was it a good coaching decision to hire Ed Reed? Yes or no?
Was it a good coaching decision to play Ed Reed? Yes or no?
When you answer those, you'll understand why I keep bringing it up. This team has been outcoached in part BECAUSE OF Ed Reed. So yeah, he spoke the truth. I just fail to see how that puts him above the fray in your eyes. Hell, firing his slow, decrepit, no hip having, sorry ass is the second best coaching decision the Texans have made this year. So maybe they're finally on the right track.
I wanted DJ Swearinger in the draft before we ever let Quin go. I was against the Ed Reed signing from the start. I thought Quin was a good player that should have been retained, or at least have his departure planned for by drafting a safety the year before or something. Ed Reed was his replacement plan. IMO at the time, it didn't take a genius to figure out that was going to suck.I was ok with the reed signing ESP after drafting DJ.
Agree for sure. Something here doesn't pass the smell test. I'm on record along with several others as saying this was another A. Green signing which McNair said we wouldn't ever do again and then he championed the chasing of Reed. Consistency? I think not.Agreed.
And also, right before saying that he said that the team played well but in "certain situations we were outplayed and out coached"
It can't be because of that statement. There has to be more to it because that is nothing.
Wow Texans are building a case when it comes to how fast they can release black players versus white players just sayin...
RICK SMITH IS RACIST AGAINST BLA...
Never mind, carry on. Just sayin...
Like I mentioned. Good or bad. I figured he was brought in short term as an answer to Brady and manning. that was all, plus obviously Watts greatest season ever as a. 3-4 DE hid a lot of our defensive weaknesses that McNair, the coaches, and the fans didn't see what was coming this seasonI wanted DJ Swearinger in the draft before we ever let Quin go. I was against the Ed Reed signing from the start. I thought Quin was a good player that should have been retained, or at least have his departure planned for by drafting a safety the year before or something. Ed Reed was his replacement plan. IMO at the time, it didn't take a genius to figure out that was going to suck.
Surely Cush does. He's white.They aren't leaders... they want to win but they don't hold any weight on the head coach or owner.
Lol. I'm fairly certain both posters were bs'ing.Really??? REALLY?????
WOW Wow to the bolded!! That's pretty much one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever seen!
There were some other responses to cstyles posts that I wanted to quote but couldn't find them.....
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EFF ME!! Apparently I've been so absentee that I don't remember how to "bold" someone's quote!! FML!
Bill!!
It sounds crazy now but so did Schaub sucks 5 years ago... 5 years from now everyone will know. At the end of the season the people that are really the problem like Schaub, Kubiak, Special teams coach and Kicker will be cut with class not in middle of the season like Reed, Jefferson, Wood, Montgomery and Dobbins. Only thing that makes sense is to bring up how the salary cap would be affected by each guy. Maybe that's just how the cards fell. It would have been better to just get rid of everyone at the end of the season but it's Bob's club not mine.Really??? REALLY?????
WOW Wow to the bolded!! That's pretty much one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever seen!
There were some other responses to cstyles posts that I wanted to quote but couldn't find them.....
*EDIT*
EFF ME!! Apparently I've been so absentee that I don't remember how to "bold" someone's quote!! FML!
Bill!!
Nope, first poster actually believes that Reed was cut because he's black. Second was obviously pointing out that Rick Smith is black.
Cush is a good guy but he got his money and he's hurt he has his health to think about. He's said things on the sideline in games that I like but he won't ever direct that to the coaching staff, media or owner. Only certain players do that I believe every team needs that one guy so in terms of that Reed did us a favor and in return we did him a favor. Now he can really do what he needs to do retire... with free money.Surely Cush does. He's white.
Allow me to introduce you to my friend Dex.It sounds crazy now but so did Schaub sucks 5 years ago... 5 years from now everyone will know. At the end of the season the people that are really the problem like Schaub, Kubiak, Special teams coach and Kicker will be cut with class not in middle of the season like Reed, Jefferson, Wood, Montgomery and Dobbins. Only thing that makes sense is to bring up how the salary cap would be affected by each guy. Maybe that's just how the cards fell. It would have been better to just get rid of everyone at the end of the season but it's Bob's club not mine.
This thread has more pages than reed had tackles.Does this really deserve a 15 page thread? he's released it didn't work out time to move on.
Putting aside the racism allegation, there are cap reasons you are missing. Jefferson, Wood & Montgomery were not vested veterans so they were owed no further salary plus they were being cut for misconduct. Reed will still get his base money but not the $62.5k per game on top (almost $500k). There is no savings in cutting Schaub, Kubiak or Marciano on top of the fact there is no reason to make a mid-season coaching change.It sounds crazy now but so did Schaub sucks 5 years ago... 5 years from now everyone will know. At the end of the season the people that are really the problem like Schaub, Kubiak, Special teams coach and Kicker will be cut with class not in middle of the season like Reed, Jefferson, Wood, Montgomery and Dobbins. Only thing that makes sense is to bring up how the salary cap would be affected by each guy. Maybe that's just how the cards fell. It would have been better to just get rid of everyone at the end of the season but it's Bob's club not mine.
Ed Reed would make a good defensive backs coach.Antonio was on the radio a little while ago and said Ed was a huge leader for the db's. Said he stood up and said things others wouldn't so or didn't know how to say. Said the guys were always going to him talking about things.
And these 15 pages only need to have one word: Good.This thread has more pages than reed had tackles.
Lol he was the Django of the Texans... Wade Phillips was the German friend.Antonio was on the radio a little while ago and said Ed was a huge leader for the db's. Said he stood up and said things others wouldn't so or didn't know how to say. Said the guys were always going to him talking about things.
Allegedly misconduct... why hasn't that story came back up? Was it ever confirmed or not if it was weed or not? Dobbins was cut for what reason not being a good boy showing up to OTA's? Reed was cut for telling reporters the flat out truth. I wanted the team to hide behind the salary reason because it made sense to do so and it makes me feel better. But I wouldn't be surprised at all if the only person that gets fired at the end of the year is the special teams coach. Then a lot of people on this board will be saying darn that cstyle42 dude is crazy but he was on to something. Watch Bob will feel sorry for Kubiak and understand. Schaub will be gone because he just has nothing to offer embarrassed himself and the city otherwise he would have got another chance.Putting aside the racism allegation, there are cap reasons you are missing. Jefferson, Wood & Montgomery were not vested veterans so they were owed no further salary plus they were being cut for misconduct. Reed will still get his base money but not the $62.5k per game on top (almost $500k). There is no savings in cutting Schaub, Kubiak or Marciano on top of the fact there is no reason to make a mid-season coaching change.
I put Smith and Andre Johnson in the same boat guys that are very important to the team and have big titles but are basically just doing what they are told versus saying or doing what they really want to do in their own minds that is best for the team. Lots don't believe that I just know that this is the kind of program the texans run. I respect Smith, Andre, Watt, Cushing, Foster... heck even Ed Reed but to ultimately win the super bowl or at least get there we have to get rid of this program for good. Start doing championship things...Don't pat yourself on the back too hard. Lots of people won't be surprised if Kubiak and Smith are back even those who desperately want them gone. Of course you leave Smith out for your racism play.