Early 2010 Small School Prospects

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  1. rmartin65

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    I have decided to do something new this year. I have had/will have less time this year to go through the hundreds of hours of tapes. So I hope to do one position every two weeks or so, and field any questions about any of the players. This first segment, is quarterbacks.

    It is a pretty strong group, by small school standards, headlined by Joe Flacco clone, John Skelton (Rank: 1) out of Fordham. The player with the most name recognition, however, is Appalachian State slasher Armanti Edwards (Rank: 2). Due to his diminutive stature and lack of under center snaps, I project him to be a wildcat QB. He is custom made for that role. Other names you might recognize are Jacksonville State quarterback Ryan Perrilloux (Rank: 8) and Florida A&M quarterback Curtis Pulley (Rank: 9). Perrilloux fall in the rankings is caused by his off the field issues. Meanwhile, Pulley has all the ability in the world, along with a solid off the field character (since he left Kentucky. Multiple drug issues while still at UK). He just has not put it together on the field.

    I will be happy to answer any questions about these quarterbacks, or any that are not on the list.

    1) John Skelton, Fordham, 6’5” 258 lbs
    2605 passing yards, 61.3% completion, 15 TD, 7 INT, 129.66 rating
    85 rush yards, 1.5 average, 2 TD

    2) Armanti Edwards, Appalachian State, 6’ 184 lbs (Wildcat)
    2902 passing yards, 64.1% completion, 30 TD, 9 INT, 170.19 rating
    941 rush yards, 4.9 average, 11 TD

    3) Trevor Harris, Edinboro, 6’3” 210 lbs
    2780 passing yards, 65.9% completion, 26 TD, 6 INT, 161.1 rating
    226 rush yards, 3.6 average, 4 TD

    4) Noah Shepard, South Dakota, 6’2” 215 lbs

    2000 passing yards, 58.5% completion, 15TD, 5 INT, 147.2 rating
    645 rush yards, 6.6 average, 13 TD

    5) Billy Cundiff, Ashland, 6’2” 209 lbs
    3776 passing yards, 67.4% completion, 37 TD, 8 INT, 169.63 rating
    272 rush yards, 2.7 average, 4 TD

    6) Matt Nichols, Eastern Washington, 6’2” 220 lbs
    3293 passing yards, 61% completion, 21 TD, 14 INT, 131.5 rating
    83 rush yards, 1.5 average, 3 TD

    7) Dominic Randolph, Holy Cross, 6’3” 223 lbs
    3838 passing yards, 65.4% completion, 34 TD, 17 INT, 142.42 rating
    79 rush yards, 1.2 average, 4 TD

    8) Ryan Perrilloux, Jacksonville State, 6’3” 223 lbs
    2318 passing yards, 63% completion, 19 TD, 13 INT, 140.9 rating
    368 rush yards, 3.1 average, 7 TD

    9) Curtis Pulley, Florida A&M, 6’4” 200 lbs
    1382 passing yards, 55.1% completion, 17 TD, 5 INT, 107.4 rating
    885 rush yards, 7.5 average, 7 TD

    10) Sebastian Trujillo, San Diego, 6’3” 222 lbs
    2822 passing yards, 66.8% completion, 35 TD, 9 INT, 160.2 rating
    33 rush yards, .8 average, 1 TD
     
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    What was Perrilloux' off-the-field problem(s)?
     
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    They mainly occured during his sophomore season, all though he was a person of interest in a case during his Freshman year, and he hored a lawyer for it.

    As a sophomore, he was caught using his brothers ID to go gamble and got in a fight outside of a nightclub (the other 2 teammates there were dismissed).

    In 2008 he was kicked off the LSU team for the 2nd time for breaking team rules, and after he was re-instated he failed a drug test, and skipped team meetings. He was kicked off for good following that.
     
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    Yike, that's too many infractions to be considered for theTexans!
     
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    Yeah. Didn't like him after the signing day stunt he pulled in deciding to go to LSU as opposed to UT. Karma is a *****.
     
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    Check out Bradley George from Texas State, he's 6,6 with some mobility and a gun. The Downside and the reason why he won't be drafted is that he's 27.
     
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    George is a legit player. Talent wise, I would put him in the top 10. But his age and lack of upside is what is ultimately going to keep him out of an NFL camp.
     
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    Is Texas State the one in San Marcos?

    Was it called West Texas State before?
     


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    Haha, maybe he will be the number one pick and refuse to be drafted by the Texans, LOL!
     
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    Ahhh, that's right! I forgot! Thanks!
    Maybe I'll check out their schedules and go there sometimes, probably on our open week.
     
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    Here are the runningbacks, earlier than I expected.

    The small school runningback class is rather weak this year. Joique Bell is the top prospect by far, as he has the size and speed to become a premier runner in the league. Coker played for Tennessee before he was dismissed after multiple failed drug tests. He know plays for FCS power Hampton. There really is not much left to say about the rest of the group.

    RB
    1) Joique Bell, Wayne State, 6’, 223
    218 rush, 1152 yards, 5.3 average, 12 TD
    20 receptions, 226 yards, 11.3 average, 1 TD

    2) LaMarcus Coker, Hampton, 5’10” 195 lbs
    144 rush, 622 yards, 4.3 average, 1 TD
    20 receptions, 265 yards, 13.2 average, 2 TD

    3) LaRon Council, Northwest Missouri State, 5’10” 210 lbs
    325 rush, 1739 yards, 5.4 average, 35 TD
    26 receptions, 214 yards, 8.4 average, 1 TD

    4) William Ford, South Carolina State, 5’11” 185 lbs
    246 rush, 1499 yards, 6.1 average, 13 TD
    17 receptions, 72 yards, 4.2 average

    5) Tunde Ogun, Christopher Newport, 6’ 218 lbs
    267 rush, 1794 yards, 6.7 average, 16 TD
    7 receptions, 39 yards, 5.6 average, 1 TD

    6) Ramon McElrathby, Howard, 5’11” 205 lbs
    45 rush, 241 yards, 5.4 average, 2 TD
    23 receptions, 172 yards, 7.5 TD, 2 TD

    7) Trevyn Smith, Weber State, 5’9” 210 lbs
    295 rush, 1585 yards, 5.4 average, 21 TD
    62 receptions, 778 yards, 12.5 average, 7 TD

    8) Ben Birmingham, Central Oklahoma, 6’ 220 lbs
    9 rush, 29 yards, 3.2 average
    Injury in first game

    9) Brandyn Young, Tennessee Martin, 5’8” 205 lbs
    126 rush, 650 yards, 5.2 average, 12 TD
    7 receptions, 130 yards, 18.6 average

    10) Andrew Kase, Johns Hopkins, 6’1” 225 lbs
    326 rush, 1635 yards, 5 average, 17 TD
    11 receptions, 89 yards, 8.1 average
     
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    Jordan Scott RB Colg....ah man, he was a senior last year!!!!!
     
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    rmartin, any idea why Randolph was picked over Skelton in the Pre-season All-Patriot League Poll ?
     
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    Randolph has put up better stats through his career. He is a better college player than Skelton, and at the moment a better quarterback. Skelton has much better NFL potential, and I see him as a Flacco type QB. Obviously not rising to the first round, maybe the 3rd.
     
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    The small school wide receiver class is very strong, the strongest of the small school ranks. I would guess that at least 6 of these guys get drafted next April. Andre Roberts (1) is the stud of the group. Lighting quick and versatile, he should go by round four. The quickest of the bunch would be Kelton Tindal (3) from Newberry. There have been reports of sub 4.2 speed, with a confirmed 4.22 time the pro day this spring. What prevents him from being an early round pick is that he is, at the moment, a one trick pony. If he can work on his route running, look out. Lateral agility is also a concern, as in the games that I have watched he seems to be more of a north-south player. This group also boasts some prototypical red zone threat players in Colgate's Simonds (2) and Harvard's Luft (8). Both players are 6'6" and are superb athletes. Simonds especially can move well, it looks like he has sub 4.5 speed. Two of the hardest players to place are Elon's Terrell Hudgins (6) and Kenyon College's Harry von Kann (9). These two players might be more suited for TE in the pros, but have shown an ability to play despite pedestrian forty times. von Kann has made some spectacular catches through his career, but as a D3 player without blazing track times, he is unlikely to be drafted. Whomever grabs him in free agency will be getting a football player.

    1) Andre Roberts, The Citadel, 5’11” 190 lbs
    90 receptions, 1268 yards, 14.1 average, 14 TD
    24 punt returns, 461 yards, 19.2 average, 3 TD
    1 kick return, 19 yards

    2) Pat Simonds, Colgate, 6’6” 223 lbs
    65 receptions, 1136 yards, 17.5 average, 9 TD
    10 punt returns, 30 yards, 3 average
    0 kick returns

    3) Kelton Tindal, Newberry, 6’3” 195 lbs
    39 receptions, 745 yards, 19.1 average, 6 TD
    1 punt return, 14 yards
    5 kick returns, 76 yards, 15.2 average

    4) Ricardo Lockette, Fort Valley State, 6’3” 200 lbs
    19 receptions, 277 yards, 14.6 average, 3 TD
    0 punt returns
    8 kick returns, 222 yards, 27.8 average, 1 TD

    5) Marc Mariani, Montana, 6’ 185 lbs
    69 receptions, 1308 yards, 19 average, 15 TD
    23 punt returns, 363 yards, 15.8 average, 2 TD
    25 kick returns, 572 yards, 22.9 average

    6) Terrell Hudgins, Elon, 6’2” 234 lbs
    86 receptions, 1116 yards, 13 average, 10 TD
    0 punt returns
    0 kick returns

    7) Aaron Boyce, Eastern Washington, 6’3” 210 lbs
    63 receptions, 917 yards, 14.6 average, 10 TD
    0 punt returns
    0 kick returns

    8) Matt Luft, Harvard, 6’6” 225 lbs
    54 receptions, 914 yards, 16.9 average, 5 TD
    0 punt return
    0 kick return

    9) Harry von Kann, Kenyon College, 6’3” 230 lbs
    64 receptions, 847 yards, 13.2 average, 10 TD
    7 punt returns, 23 yards, 3.3 average
    29 kick returns, 678 yards, 23.4 average, 2 TD

    10) Donald Jones, Youngstown State, 6’2” 210 lbs
    31 receptions, 510 yards, 16.5 average, 7 TD
    0 punt returns
    0 kick returns
     
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    I'd like to hear more about the two 6'6 guys!
     
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    Simmons is definitely the better of the two. He has very solid hands, and underrated athleticism. He would be a great red zone threat.

    I kind of worried about putting Luft on the list. He had a NFL prospect QB throwing to him, and with his height that gives him a huge advantage at the FCS level. That said, he has a pro ready body and solid hands. I dont see him being drafted, but he should be an UDFA, and stick on a Practice Squad.
     
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    Here are the top 5 of the fullbacks and the top 5 of the tight ends. Both are very weak.

    Fullbacks
    There are two potential NFL players. Harbor (2) is more of an HBack type player, as he plays TE at Missouri State. McClintock (1) is the prototype blocking FB. The man loves hitting. Casey (3) was a top 5 FB prospect last season before a knee injury ended his season.

    1) Bobby McClintock, Portland State, 5’10” 235 lbs

    2) Clay Harbor, Missouri State, 6’3” 240 lbs

    3) Joe Casey, Rhode Island, 5’10” 215 lbs

    4) Jordan Paula, South Dakota State, 6’3” 244 lbs

    5) Dre Gibbs, Western Illinois, 5’10” 225 lbs



    Tightends
    Again, most likely only 2 NFL players on this list. Sicko (1) is a better pass catching TE, but has a lack of size that will keep him from being drafted. Overbay (2) has the size to be a mauling TE, but has questionable hands. He reminds me of Kevin Boss, the NY Giants TE that came from Western Washington. Mike Jones (5) played OT last year, but is being moved to TE. He is athletic, and has upside.

    1) Scott Sicko, New Hampshire, 6’3” 230 lbs

    2) Nathan Overbay, Eastern Washington, 6’5” 270 lbs

    3) Sean Bunevich, Duquesne, 6’3” 230 lbs

    4) Dan Beaudin, Montana, 6’4” 252 lbs

    5) Mike Jones, West Virginia State, 6’5” 270 lbs



    On an unrelated note, here is an interesting bit about my favorite small school player in the draft, Citadel receiver Andre Roberts.
    http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2009/aug/10/roberts_likely_be_used_all_over92005/
     
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    There are only a few videos of Simonds on the net, but it looks like the guy is pretty fluid at 6'6

    He can flex his hips and turn quite well on the comebacker.
    Looks good going up for the ball over the DBs.

    ......

    Which on is the guy who runs sub 4'3
    Andre Roberts?
     

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