Dustin Keller injury... wow

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  1. Playoffs

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    Wow...

    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
    Armando Salguero ‏@ArmandoSalguero
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    Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli
    Swearinger hopes Keller recovers quickly

    DJ Swearinger ‏@JungleBoi_Swagg
     
  2. EllisUnit

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    well now after this season you will not be allowed to go low anymore either. I wonder if the flags will be team color coordinated or if they will use the generic yellow flags for flag football. But then that would conflict with the refs flags.

    Oh well either way i wont be watching :kitten:
     
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    Tania Ganguli @taniaganguli
    RT @RapSheet : To add Dustin Keller's
    woes (torn ACL, MCL, PCL, dislocated
    knee cap), @ArmandoSalguero says docs
    fear nerve damage. Scary.


    Looked as bad as bad as it sounds. That's what Goodell wanted. Players to go low. Avoid the head. Well Roger, ask Keller where he would have rather got hit last night.
     
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    Aaaaaaand that's why guys like to get hit up high.

    The problem with the rules that I have is that they penalize for incidental contact instead of blatant head hunting. They don't take into account natural football movement.

    So now you're going to have more guys getting hit down low. I don't like to see that for any player.

    But instead of reversing and allowing some leeway for defenders you're going to have the league now say you can't take away the legs and now wr's will start to get qb treatment.
     
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    I think Swaeringer's whiff against the Vikings contributed to it, as well...

    Rookie D.J. Swearinger vows to learn from mistake
    August 9, 2013

     
  7. CloakNNNdagger

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    The knee cap dislocation is the least of all of his problems. As I've mentioned before, you can take for granted knee JOINT dislocation with combined ACL, MCL, and PCL ruptures. And you can also take for granted that there would be significant meniscus tears.

    As for the nerve damage. The nerve that is in question is the peroneal nerve, a nerve that lies superficial at the lateral portion of the knee, poorly protected without any overlying cushioning. It can sustain a direct crush injury due to the hard hit to the lateral knee, or can be torn (sometimes in 2) by a shearing caused by knee joint or even patellar (knee cap) dislocation.

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    If this nerve is damaged, it can cause some areas of lower leg anesthesia (sensory loss)............

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    but most worrisome, it can cause "foot drop" [the loss of ability to flex your foot upwards.....a motion that you need just to walk] (motor loss).
     
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    Hopkins was also hurt before that by result of a low tackle as well, I forgot who hit him though but it was a low hit. The only difference is that Hopkins leg was not planted as firmly as Keller's.

    At this point I hope Keller is able to play in the NFL again, his injury sounds career threatening. Hate that it happens, but DJ did what so many players do. I hope the NFL doesn't respond next year by saying "You only must wrap up now." would ruin the league IMO.
     


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    My main concern about this play is that after the League reviews it, they will come up with Swearinger "leading with the helmet."
     
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    The others are just trying to take care of their guys, just like we would. Remeber the crap we said about the guy that took out Cush? Or what we said about Joe Mays when he popped Schaub?
     
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    Both of those were flagged and fined hits, one with a suspension.
     
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    Of course there's a different set of rules for blocking vs tackling.
     
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    I made this comment today while watching the replay. Basically, we talk about what a guy should or shouldn't have done. It isn't like they have time to run thru a multiple possibility scenario before acting. It is a split second, instinct decision. Training and muscle memory come into play. Ascribing motives is a bit much in this situation.
     
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    If I am reading you correctly, keller could not only have his career over, but there is a (negative) realistic chance that he won't walk correctly
     
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    If the nerve were only bruised or only stretched, he still has a good chance of having the nerve "go to sleep" with loss of varying function for as long as 1-2 years to fully rehab........some do not return full function. If this injury resulted in true crushing or tearing apart of the nerve with or without the decision to surgically repair, you can expect the potential of much lesser return to no functional return, as determined at the 2 year mark. Either way, this part of the injury could easily be devastating to a football player's career....and possibly change his out-of-sport life forever.
     
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    Has there ever been a study regarding career ending injuries by position played? I know RBs have a short shelf life. QBs a lengthy career. Wonder what the numbers are for offensive vs. defensive players?
     
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    No! only return to play studies, such as ACL studies showing 20% no return, etc., and isolated lists of players from various sources..........but not compilation data that I am aware of.
     
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    Feel very bad for this young man, as he had an injury-filled 2012 season dealing with hamstrings and a severe high ankle sprain. He refused a multi year deal with the Dolphins in lieu of his 1 year deal because he felt he was worth more and wanted to prove his worth this year, playing for a better contract. He definitely demonstrated some great chemistry with Tannehill.
     
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    Brian Hartline: Swearinger's excuse on Keller hit was 'crap'

     
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    1. Don't hit them in the helmet.

    2. Don't hit them at or below knees.

    New coaching technique: Aim for the GROIN. :kubepalm:
     
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