Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by DocBar, Apr 19, 2012.
I think they over valued TJ Yates and under valued other players. But it's nice to read others think highly of our organization.
Stuff like this just makes me ready for draft week that much more.
Is his name Vince Young?
I think a lot of the fanbase undervalues Yates.
Yeah, he had some bad moments but considering the circumstances the guy was really good.
He QB'd this franchise to our first play-off win. He played really well at times, even without Andre for some of it.
He ran up against a really good Baltimore defense with Ed Reed and Ray Lewis leading the way. Two guys that have seen it all from offenses. This was his first time playing that team.
I'm pretty sure there have been rookies drafted higher with more expectations that have done just as bad or worse against that team.
Everyone loves Andy Dalton's future prospects, but he had a QB rating in the 60's both times he played the Ravens AND he threw 3 picks the first time he faced them as well. Keep it in mind that Dalton had the benefit of knowing he was a starter and getting that extra attention from day 1.
I think Yates did an outstanding job all things considered and this is coming from someone that was saying before last season they should have cut him to put him on the PS so they could have an extra roster spot.
If Schaub can't go, I feel good about Yates leading the team for a while.
You will get your wish sooner than later in my opinion.
I think Yates showed well last season considering how little prep he had gotten earlier in the season. With a full preseason behind him, and the coachs knowing he has to be ready, he could be a very good QB. But we won't know that until he starts playing. I'm hoping they take another QB mid to late draft, because if not, they'll be scrambling for everyone's left overs and other out of work QBs wanting a paycheck.
Didn't really learn anything from that article. Pretty meh work, imo.
They were only rating the 2008-2010 drafts. Yates was drafted in 2011, and they were speculating on his future ranking (if he takes off).
I know it's still early, but I think JJ Watt will fit into the +1.5 category.
The Texans under Rick/Gary have done a good not great job of drafting.
I would put Barwin/Quin/Tate in the +1.0 category.
Loking at Yates as a 5th rd pick with very little preparation vs Ponder/Gabbert as high 1st rd picks makes me very hopeful about Yates future. Yates played very well considering the circumstances he was put in.
Watt is definitely a + 1.5 IMHO Newton/Miller/Green/Watt made the most impact as rookies on their teams.
Let's not forget how much better he looked when Andre was in there with him. Save for the Baltimore game, but Reed can do that to alot of QBs and yet we were still a Kevin Walter catch away from going to OT with those fools.
Personally, I'd rank Mitchell a bit higher than they have him.
Article re-enforces my thoughts on Kubiak and Smith: they are solid when it comes to the draft, and I am not worried about the decisions they will make in about a week.
A.) I know he was grading the 2008 through 2010 draft, but anyways I might even rank Watt (2011 draft) as 1.75, halfway between 1.5 and 2.0...but I think 1.5 is warranted right now.
B.) Mitchell should be 0.5 (The "never hurts to have a contributor" category) instead of the 0.0 ranking.
There is always going to be a chance that a few teams goof up early in Round 1 and let guys slip to us at 26 that we can use right away. In fact, I think that very thing will happen. Zeitler at RG is a guy I think slips to 26. Kendall Wright at WR is a possible slip to 26. Fleener? Slim chance but it's possible. I think those three guys are good, almost a no-risk factor at pick 26. Any of those three guys are going to firm up roster positions on the Texans that need immediate talent at those positions.
My hesitancy is on the LBs that are going to be floating around out there in Round 1. I am a bit foggy on which ones are good for Wade, and if there's even one out there that Smith, Kubiak, and Phillips would spend a #26 overall upon. I think this is why we signed Bradie James...I think his acquisition and Sharpton provide the rotation there, allowing us to go LB later in the draft.
OL and WR or TE (He has to be fast, smart, blocks well, and reliable hands...like Fleener) seem to be the three positions I think we will target. No way we go CB, no way we go S, LB is likely out of the question, and I cannot see us gambling on DL at #26. On the offense, we won't take QB, will not take a C (unless Konz is there, which I bet he isn't), won't take RB or FB, so that leaves a G or T and either a WR or a TE.
That's my guess, and in this order: WR, TE, or G or T. Wright will be off the board, by all likelihood, so that leaves us debating on taking a leftover WR or going the route of a TE or an OL. Which means: Fleener will likely be off the board, but there's still some quality TEs to be had at #26. If they don't like those leftovers...they can go with Zeitler or Cordy Glenn--Some "Duane Brown" type mauler to add instantly to the o-line. I think they have lots of options.
Compaired to our first GM/HC combo of Capers and Casserly, Smith and Kubiak are rock stars. They've also got us to the playoffs and looking like we take the AFC south two years in a row.
For those not used to me praising Kubiak like this, well, I'm not used to it either, but the truth is the truth. We shall soon see though.
All would mean squat without Wade Phillips coming here in 2011
Since we still don't know for sure the exact way in which he was hired, and probably never will, default credit still has to go to Smith in some way for the Son of Bum signing.
I don't think the article is for diehards like all of us. It's more to inform people that are fans of other teams. I might not have gotten much out of it, but if I read the same type of writeup for any of the other 31 teams, I'd had learned a lot.
Good point. If I want to read an article about in depth stuff concerning the Texans I'd rather read an article from someone here at Texans Talk...I may disagree with some of it, but at least most here are keyed in to the team.
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