I want to start off by saying that I like Mario and HONESTLY hope that he improves and that he has improved. But IMO, no where nearly enough!!! I realize that stats aren't everything...but I think that it's time to stop making excuses for MW. He is NOT where any of us had hoped that he would be by this time. I think that we can be honest about his performance WITHOUT BRINGING ANYONE ELSE INTO THE MIX!!! (ie: VY, RB, etc.) Don't misunderstand this thread...this IS NOT another Mario Sucks thread! NOT MY INTENTION AT ALL!!! But let shoot straight guys...I did some checking into the stats and MW isn't even in the TOP 60 in the league in sacks! http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/AFC/SCKS/2006/regular http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFC/SCKS/2006/regular http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/SCKS/2006/regular And compared to a League Leading 50 tackles by Zach Thomas...Mario is sitting at 7 tackles! And before somebody jumps on the "But He's ONLY A Rookie" bologna...he's not in the top 5 in sacks and is NOWHERE NEAR the top of the list in tackles. Mark Anderson DE w/Chicago is leading the sack list with 5.5. And Ernie Sims with DETROIT is leading the tackle list with 43 tackles...followed up by Demeco with 38 tackles! http://www.nfl.com/rookies/stats I realize that taking up for MW is more an issue of "saving face" than ANYTHING else...but IMO, it makes us look like we're just riding the ship down. IMO, it makes us look like we simply can't admit that MW was a poor decision (at least at this point). I can't wait to see how many people will say, "You can't judge MW after ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, OR SIX games...it's ONLY been six games!" Come on guys. MW hasn't done well at all! He's been a HUGE disappointment, IMO. Let's compare him to other DE's in the draft: First Round: #1--Mario Williams 7 T's, 3 A's, 1.5 S's #13--Kamerion Wimbley (drafted as DE, moved to OLB) 11 T's, 3 A's, 3 S's (in 5 games) #20--Tamba Hali 11 T's, 2 A's, 2.5 S's (in 4 games) #32--Mathias Kiwanuku 4 T's, 1 A's, 0 S's (in 4 games) Second Round: #63--Darryl Tapp 5 T's, 2 A's, 2 S's (in 4 games) Third Round: #71--Chris Gocong (Played 0 games) #91--Frostee Rucker (Played 0 games) #92--Jason Hatcher 2 T's, 2 A's, .5 S's (4 games) Fourth Round: #113--Victor Adeyanju 12 T's, 1 A's, 0 S's (5 games) #126--Elvis Dumervil 0 T's, 0 A's, 0 S's (1 game) #127--Ray Edwards 5 T's, 0 A's, 2 S's (5 games) Fifth Round: #135--Rob Ninkovich 2 T's, 2 A's, 0 S's (3 games) #140--Parys Haralson 1 T's, 0 A's, 0 S's (4 games) #156--Julian Jenkins 1 T's, 0 A's, 0 S's (3 games) #159--Mark Anderson 7 T's, 2 A's, 5.5 S's (5 games) #160--Brent Hawkins 4 T's, 1 A's, 0 S's (3 games) Sixth Round: #191--Jeremy Mincey (0 games played) #197--Melvin Oliver 7 T's, 3 A's, 0 S's (5 games) Seventh Round: #213--James Wyche (0 games played) #237--Stanley McClover (0 games played) #253--Dave Tollefson (0 games played) http://www.nfl.com/draft/drafttracker/round/round1 http://www.nfl.com/players I'd like to have some honest dialogue about MW. There is NOTHING about Mario that even comes CLOSE to being #1 & First round pick "worthy." I don't want to get into an "I told you so...Mario sucks...we should've taken ___?___." thread. I just don't feel that MW has lived up to his expectation as a #1 pick. I just think that it's about time to be honest with ourselves and not be so -like with Mario. MW has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH RB, VY, ML, DF, or anyone else. WE'RE JUST TALKING MARIO!!!! Thoughts?