Do you want to win on Sunday vs. Jacksonville?

Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by RagingBull, Dec 29, 2010.

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Do you want the Texans to beat the Jags on Sunday

  1. A) Yes, I always want the Texans to win!

    29 vote(s)
    36.3%
  2. B) No, it will mess up our chances of getting a top 5 pick.

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  3. C) No, it increases the likelihood of Kubiak staying.

    6 vote(s)
    7.5%
  4. D) Both B and C

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    40.0%
  1. RagingBull

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    Someone in another post mentioned that most of us do not want to win the Jags game. I am curious what the consensus is. Do we want to win or would you rather lose to a backup QB in order to improve draft pick/improve the odds of Kubiak being ousted.
     
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    Voted no and have absolutely no problem doing it. Especially since I'm now starting to here rumors that dumbass McNair actually wants to bring back Kubiak.

    :kubepalm:
     
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    You play. To win. The game.

    The fate of Kubiak was likely decided days, if not weeks, ago. Our draft status something I could care less about at the moment. I'll think of the draft when the draft rolls around. The football field, as Ray Lewis said, is a battlefield. It's war out there. The enemy is coming into our territory. I for one will never root against my team because it would be like wanting your country to lose a war.

    :texflag: One left. Get it done.
     
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    I been telling you why for weeks .... There is almost no objectivity when it comes to Kubiak within the Texans fan base now. Cant see the good he's done for the failure that is the back end of the defense.
     
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    I'm just ready for this nightmare of a season to be over.
     
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    The back end of the defense isn't the only failure here....there's plenty of failures on both sides of the ball.
     


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    I wont (and cant) disagree with that - BUT when Bob looks at the numbers they tell a different tale.

    Also , look at their record before and after they lost the leader of their already poor defense.


    The coaches job is to put players in a position to succeed - Kubiak for the most part has done that. Its the players who have failed to capatilize on those situations presented them and the main issue has been the back end of the defense. If they arent "This Bad" the Texans record is probably considerably different.

    Sure Kubiak gets some of that blame but a lot of that goes to Smith as well.

    You have to see this from McNairs position rather than that of a fan to understand why he would stick with Kubiak - Objectivity.
     
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    I wonder what day I should bring down the Christmas tree? :kubepalm:
     
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    Objectivity?! Here? Surely you jest.
     
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    Fans are like :kitten:'s .... Fickle.
     
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    I didn't vote because I didn't see "Screw it. Let's just end the season" as an option.
     
  14. Rey

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    I don't really care at this point what they do against the Jags...

    The whole thing is just pretty pathetic right now...
     
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    I don't care.
     
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    I'm starting to like the idea of Kubiak & Wade more & more.
     
  17. Rey

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    Right, two softies is exactly what we need.
     
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    I'm down with analogies but this one doesn't fly. If a football game is a battle, winning the Super Bowl is winning the war. Battles only matter in the context of the larger war, and if a battle doesn't contribue to winning a war, it is meaningless.

    Winning the Super Bowl should be the ultimate, and ultimately the only, priority for a football team. People say that stats are for losers, but in reality, regular season wins and losses are also for losers. The only thing that matters is getting to the Super Bowl and winning it.

    The above is undeniable. And the conclusion is inevitable. Winning these "battles", the games at the end of this ruined season, is not helping us win the war. In fact it's hurting us. The things that will help us win the Super Bowl are not victories right now but a new coaching staff and a stellar 2011 draft. Anything, and I do mean anything, that isn't helping us achieve those two things, which includes winning this final game, is either doing nothing or hurting us. Boosting our record and lowering our draft position is at this point hurting our chances of winning the Super Bowl in the near future.


    War is not a time for emotions. It's a time for facing reality, cold determination and out-maneuvering your enemy. The oft-repeated maxim of "I will never root for my team to lose" is an emotional, irrational statement when compared with the realities of the football world. Of course that is fine, everyone is entitled to be whatever kind of fan they want to be. Not everyone takes football deathly seriously, and not everyone is comfortable comparing football to warfare. But for those who are inclined to make that comparison, the fact is that a blind desire to win every game no matter what is counter-productive to the only goal that matters.

    Put it this way: Wanting to win this game is emotional. Wanting to lose it is strategic. Would you rather have a general that is emotional or strategic?



    Personally, I'm hoping the Texans lose this Sunday, but it's not because I think football is war. I just realize that it will be to the long-term benefit of the team. I also want us to sit knicked up players and see what we have in Leinart, Dickerson, Graham, Sharpton, and some others. I know I take football less seriously than some people (my brother, for example), but I'm no better or worse of a fan than people who insist on rooting for the team in every single game. I have perfectly good reasons for my position and it has absolutely nothing to do with being a fair-weather fan or a bandwagoner. If I, or any of the others of us who want the Texans to lose this week, were fair-weather fans, we'd be long gone from this place, looking for a Patriots message board to post on.

    :texflag:
     
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  19. CharloTex

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    Wow!!! Spectacular post. I wish I had said any part of that, let alone all of it.

    I also voted no, for the reasons you quite clearly said. Thanks!
     
  20. Rey

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    Wow....That is an excellent post my friend...

    Repped...:photos:
     

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