DeMeco Chat

Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by Texans_Chick, Jun 11, 2008.

  1. Texans_Chick

    Texans_Chick Utopian Dreamer

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2004
    Messages:
    7,279
    Likes Received:
    1,064
    If you want to check out the DeMeco chat from the Chron, here it is:

    DeMeco Chat

    A couple of interesting things in there. Here's what jumped out at me:

    I think that what I've bolded is the biggest change we will see with the offense. When I heard Kyle Shanahan speak on this subject when he first was with the team, he talked a lot about this. When he was with the Bucs, he actually tried to get Jon Gruden to change some of the offensive line blocking to make it harder to guess run versus pass.

    He talked a lot about how defenses start guessing run because the blocking *feels* the same and then they get surprised by the pass and are out of position.
     
    rollinstone18 likes this.
  2. DiehardChris

    DiehardChris You betcha!

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2007
    Messages:
    3,808
    Likes Received:
    398
    Location:
    Back in Houston
    Heh. Right after the chat I went straight to my site and posted about the very same line RE: the pass/run blocking.
     
  3. Texans_Chick

    Texans_Chick Utopian Dreamer

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2004
    Messages:
    7,279
    Likes Received:
    1,064

    lol.

    It helps that Shake asked the question. Most of the questions were foof.
     
  4. DiehardChris

    DiehardChris You betcha!

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2007
    Messages:
    3,808
    Likes Received:
    398
    Location:
    Back in Houston
    Yeah, very much so. I asked a question about the whole perceived lack of nastiness on the Texans defense, but he didn't answer/moderator didn't forward it to him.

    But as to the subject of your original post - I love that DeMeco singled out that fact about disguising their blocks. Shake's question didn't call for him to specifically reference how well they were doing that, so for a pro-bowl MLB talent like DeMeco to mention that specific detail unsolicited really makes me think Gibbs is making big early strides. He could have easily said "yeah, they look great, much better than last year, blah blah blah" but that clearly is something that has impressed him.
     
  5. NBT

    NBT Veteran

    Joined:
    May 11, 2008
    Messages:
    241
    Likes Received:
    8
    Location:
    S.E. Texas Coast
    I just hope it works and gives the QB a little more time to do his reads and go to the right man.
     
  6. False Start

    False Start On # 69

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2005
    Messages:
    13,603
    Likes Received:
    1,064
    Location:
    Waiting For the Turning Point!
    Thanks for the link TC . Good stuff ! :jam:
     
  7. Maddict5

    Maddict5 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2006
    Messages:
    5,477
    Likes Received:
    315
    chris brown to the probowl??

    new FF late rd sleeper to take perhaps?
     
  8. Lucky

    Lucky Moderator

    Joined:
    May 1, 2004
    Messages:
    14,279
    Likes Received:
    1,474
    I think Anna Megan might have had a typo, and DeMeco meant Kris Brown.
     


  9. Maddict5

    Maddict5 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2006
    Messages:
    5,477
    Likes Received:
    315
    touche...

    but demeco did mention chris brown looks really good running the zone so far.. hard to say though
     
  10. b0ng

    b0ng Ooops

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2007
    Messages:
    7,889
    Likes Received:
    613
    It's not surprising that Chris Brown looks good in practice. It's mostly his injury history that people worry about with him.
     
  11. ATXtexanfan

    ATXtexanfan Site Contributor

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2007
    Messages:
    3,698
    Likes Received:
    107
    Location:
    leander, tx
    hearing about these kind of things in the offseason gets me pumped, chris brown was a beast at colorado in this system. i hope he can stay healthy, if not, we have depth at rb.
     
  12. kiwitexansfan

    kiwitexansfan Site Contributor

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2005
    Messages:
    9,507
    Likes Received:
    472
    Location:
    Auckland, New Zealand
    I have been saying since we signed Brown that I expect him to start game one.... maybe I'm not always full of it...

    Love that Baby Shanahan is making some changes and putting his imprint on things as well. Takes some guts to suggest/make changes with people like Gruden and Gibbs around. More power to him.
     
  13. DiehardChris

    DiehardChris You betcha!

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2007
    Messages:
    3,808
    Likes Received:
    398
    Location:
    Back in Houston
    Personally, I don't read anything at all into the whole 'Chris Brown is looking better than all the RBs thing' for two reasons. 1 - he's got the most experience with the ZBS, and naturally would be more comfortable at this early stage. 2 - not to be a pessimist... but - no pads, no contact. I actually liked the Brown signing, but let's revisit who looks best at the end of training camp when both he and Green have taken some shots to the knees.
     
  14. Ole Miss Texan

    Ole Miss Texan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 8, 2006
    Messages:
    8,694
    Likes Received:
    685
    Sweet! Only 87 days 2 hours and 17...scratch that.. 16 minutes till kickoff! :trophy:
     
  15. hadaad

    hadaad All Pro

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2004
    Messages:
    870
    Likes Received:
    45
    I'm happy with the Chris Brown signing and if he's not starting day 1, he'll probably get a shot at some point in the season. Probably game 4 when Ahman Green is doubtful with swelling in his knee.
     
  16. mexican_texan

    mexican_texan Furry Tractors

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Messages:
    14,192
    Likes Received:
    515
    Location:
    Spring, TX
    I think Chris Brown will be our leading rusher. I liked him with the pre-Vince Young Titans.

    Pro Bowl, though? I think he meant Kris Brown.
     
  17. 76Texan

    76Texan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2006
    Messages:
    13,583
    Likes Received:
    529
    Most of the ZBS when incorporated into the passing game (I read, they call it Zone Locking) involve shorter routes. The nature of the scheme lends itself well and it helps if you have a QB that can make a quick read, and has a quick release (MS is better than Sage in this regard.)

    The danger is in the drop back pass as I've given this a fair amount of thoughts. I don't know if I can elaborate it well enough, but i will try:

    1. I would assume that the flow of the O-linemen more often will be to the weak side (the left), so that our TE on the strong side (the opposite side) can pick up the LDE. If we have the FB in there, he could help, or he could take on any extra defender close to the LOS on the strong side.

    2. If the flow of the rampagin elephants (as Pitts referred the Olinemen in the Zone Locking scheme) is to the strong side (the right), the RDE was automatically optioned (left open) as our LT takes on the RDT.
    We can have the FB faking a counter play and take on the RDE, a difficult task.
    Otherwise, the QB has to be very mobile and quick in his drop.
    He should be prepare to get rid of the ball when necessary, and get ready to land on his behind. Because the RDE trailing the play would see it developed.

    3. Even assuming that most of the defenders bite on the fake, there's always the chance that an extra defender close to the LOS can see it and wouldn't go for the fake (besides the fact that one of the DE most likely won't).

    4. Sometimes the defense dictates itself. The more defenders they have crouching the LOS, the more difficult to try the drop pass with a run fake.

    5. It's also more difficult on third and long, when the defense decide to blitz.

    Exhibits: Texans/Broncos game: Mario sacked Cutler, I don't know if you want your QB on his back too often like that.
    Texans/Titans game: Finnegan sacked MS, causing the knee injury.
    Both were on 1st and 10.
     
  18. badboy

    badboy Site Contributor

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2007
    Messages:
    25,472
    Likes Received:
    986
    Location:
    Clear Lake
    If the defense is crowding the line or the "box" would not the QB audible to another play?
     
  19. Polo

    Polo Guest

    -Most of the time the QB will be faking the run one way and then rolling out to the other.

    -If they are run faking to the right everyone will be initially stepping to the right.

    -If the TE stays in to block instead of going out on a route he'll probably be helping out with the DE rather than being responsible for him.


    In this scheme you really can't say who is responsible for who because defenders are not simulated beings. They move and in the ZBS you don't really chase defenders. If a D-lineman stunts or slants or the defense does some kind of blitz, the linemen's steps and technique should allow the puzzle pieces to fall in place.

    It's kinda hard to explain, but not really....
     
  20. 76Texan

    76Texan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2006
    Messages:
    13,583
    Likes Received:
    529
    Exactly, and there goes the fake!
     

Share This Page