DD's touchdown run at the end of the game.

Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by gwallaia, Nov 29, 2004.

  1. gwallaia

    gwallaia Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2004
    Messages:
    7,897
    Likes Received:
    723
    I just wonder ......, did Fisher tell his defense to give up the score to stop the clock? 1:47 or so was left in the game, there was no way the Titans could stop the clock. All the Texans had to do was run out the clock and win the game.

    The only way for the Titans to get the ball back would be to allow the Texans to score. This would put them down by 10 with a slim shot of scoring a quick TD themselves and getting an onside kick.

    It sounds weird, but I think it was a desperate move by Fisher. They were guaranteed to lose if they just watched the Texans run out the clock. By allowing DD the easy td, they had a sliver of hope of tying it up.
     
  2. SBTexans08

    SBTexans08 All Pro

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2004
    Messages:
    677
    Likes Received:
    7
    Location:
    3rd Coast
    Yup....clearly evident they gave up the rushing score.
     
  3. TexansTrueFan

    TexansTrueFan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2004
    Messages:
    2,600
    Likes Received:
    14
    Location:
    Huntsville Tx
    i thought the same thing when i saw it, but after watching houston texans inside the game yesterday and seeing the replay, i dont really think so, guys were trying to get to him our O-line just opened up such a big hole for him, its not like fishers guys just stood there they were trying to get in there, after he got past the d-line there was no secondary to stop him, cause they were stacking the line !
     
  4. Porky

    Porky Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2004
    Messages:
    12,482
    Likes Received:
    990
    The CBS announcers mentioned that as a possibility. I rewound my TIVO about 5-6 times looking for any indicators, and although I can't say for sure, to me it looks like the Texans just manned them up, and blew them away. I didn't see any definitive signs of quitting. It's possible though. Fisher is a brilliant coach imo, and I wouldn't put it past him. Really, that was the only way for them to tie the game. Although slim, their only hope was to get the ball back, and the only way to do that was to let the Texans score. The main reason I say no, other than the visual evidence, is that most coaches don't want to coach players to give up, or lose on purpose, even for one play. It runs counter to everything they teach. Does make you wonder though. :hmmm:
     
  5. Lucky

    Lucky Moderator

    Joined:
    May 1, 2004
    Messages:
    14,326
    Likes Received:
    1,517
    The players aren't that dense. They can understand the strategy behind giving up the score at 1:42 remaining vs getting the ball back with 5 seconds remaining. I think there's little question the Titans gave up the TD purposely.
     
  6. SBTexans08

    SBTexans08 All Pro

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2004
    Messages:
    677
    Likes Received:
    7
    Location:
    3rd Coast
    This isn't the first time I've seen a self induced opposing team score...it's not the second or third time either a "great" coach does this. Just because it looked like the Titans stacked the line means nothing IMO. Play action bootlegs makes the O-line move to one side and the opposing teams D-line follow in that same direction while the QB moves to the other.....the play is drawn up like that....to make it look like a run will be going one way when it isn't even a run. I'm not for certain he chose to give up the score in order to have a chance to tie....but Jeff Fisher is known for doing things like that. It's certainly something that can't be scratched out of possibility.
     
  7. TexansTrueFan

    TexansTrueFan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2004
    Messages:
    2,600
    Likes Received:
    14
    Location:
    Huntsville Tx
    oh well he still had a really good game even before that 41 yard "gimme" run so i dont care, i was still happy with his performance !
     
  8. Blake

    Blake MMQB

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2004
    Messages:
    11,224
    Likes Received:
    624
    Location:
    Spring
    I think the team has more self respect than to give up a rushing TD like that. Im sure the plan was to get at the ball. Swat it, strip it, get it away from DD.
     


  9. V Man

    V Man Pumpkinhead

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2004
    Messages:
    2,591
    Likes Received:
    58
    Location:
    Alamo City
    That is it. They were all on the line trying to stop the run, and after you get past the line it is all open field. You see it often on short yardage runs, get past the line of scrimmage and you have a pretty big gain.
     
  10. Eagle Fan

    Eagle Fan Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Seems to me that the packers did the same thing in the superbowl the first year that Denver won. It didn't work THAT time either.
     
  11. TEXANS84

    TEXANS84 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2004
    Messages:
    7,480
    Likes Received:
    365
    Location:
    The Woodlands, TX
    I don't think so. I mean, it was a 2nd down run. If they were going to allow a touchdown, why wouldn't they on on the 1st down?
     
  12. TexansTrueFan

    TexansTrueFan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2004
    Messages:
    2,600
    Likes Received:
    14
    Location:
    Huntsville Tx

    Good point,,,i didnt think it was a gimme anyways, but very true !
     
  13. TEXANS84

    TEXANS84 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2004
    Messages:
    7,480
    Likes Received:
    365
    Location:
    The Woodlands, TX
    But see, the only thing that baffles me (I forgot to TIVO it-Dang it!!) is that the two minuite warning came around the 1:47 mark. Now, did the INT take it to the two minuite mark, or was it DD's first run, or was their a timeout by TN?
    Sorry, I forgot...was too busy jumping up and down in my seat.
     
  14. TexansTrueFan

    TexansTrueFan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2004
    Messages:
    2,600
    Likes Received:
    14
    Location:
    Huntsville Tx
    yes it was about to be the 2 minute warning cause mcnair took a timeout at like 2:06 or something, than Mcree got the int and 2 plays later Davis ran it the 41 yards and tennesse only had 1 timeout left !
     
  15. ArlingtonTexan

    ArlingtonTexan Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2004
    Messages:
    6,162
    Likes Received:
    465
    I thought it were possible that Titans allowed the score, but the way the offense of the titans came out with short throw to the TE, did not show the urgency that a team allowing such a run should display.
     
  16. Str8tupg42k1

    Str8tupg42k1 Veteran

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2004
    Messages:
    145
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Houston
    To me it looked like the Titans stacked up the line and were looking for a pitch and DD saw a huge hole and cut back and went straight trough it. When you look at the replay you see the defenders looking clueless on the left side as to where DD was. Either way whats done is done if they gave up the score it backfired on them.
     
  17. kuno

    kuno Rookie

    Joined:
    May 28, 2004
    Messages:
    92
    Likes Received:
    0
    I think there is little doubt they gave it up. They did not do it on first down cause of the chance of a turnover, and if they did not get one they could call timeout. After that their only chance was to let the run thru.
     
  18. TheOgre

    TheOgre Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2004
    Messages:
    3,739
    Likes Received:
    53
    Location:
    Back in the cellar again
    I liked the TD because it allowed me to win my FF game. Hehe.

    Seriously, I think giving up the TD would be the smart thing to do. Otherwise we run two plays and punt the ball. I think there is more chance of getting 10 points with 1:35 to play than there is to get 3 points with 5 seconds to play.
     
  19. DreamCatcher

    DreamCatcher Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2004
    Messages:
    72
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    England
    Either way it was a sweet moment and DD took his oppurtunity well.
     
  20. TexansTrueFan

    TexansTrueFan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2004
    Messages:
    2,600
    Likes Received:
    14
    Location:
    Huntsville Tx
    actually they would of had more like 20-30 seconds left if we hadnt gotten the first down, i'd rather be down by 3 with 30 secs than 10 with a 1:20 .
     

Share This Page