Dc's for hire

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  1. powda

    powda Hall of Fame

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    I'm curious as to a lack of post related to the new defensive coordinator?

    Bob McNair will not fire Kubiak. He has proven his penchant for a passive approach. Bush will be the scapgoat despite the out cry from fans. Heres your heads up so you can start the healing process in advance.

    I have 2 criteria for what i'd like to see in a new defensive coordinator:

    1.4-3 guru with some name recognition to simmer the fans. (Name recognition means he's not a buddy you trust that no ones heard of- guru means hes had success.)

    2. leader / public appeal
    (Allow me to explain) I'm sick of the "Aw schucks." persona Kubiak has. The media recieves almost no access to the oc (Dennison) or the dc (currently bush). The voice of the Texans is basically Kubiak. He has lost the fan base so why let him continue to be the only voice? Give me a fire and brinstone personality that wont say pc things.

    So who fits the bill?

    Mike Singeltary
    Leslie Frazier
    Marvin Lewis (Mike Zimmer)
    Rod Marinelli

    what names can you add?
     
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  2. Mari-OWNED!

    Mari-OWNED! Bucco Bruce

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    John Fox has been a great defensive backs coach for decades now. I'm all for bringing him in if we keep the Kubes.
     
  3. Texan634

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    Singletary is a head coach and likely not getting fired
    Frazier will likely stay as head coach in Minnesota and fire and brimstone he is not
    Marinelli - is a current DC and likely would not be allowed to make a lateral move

    Lewis - may be avalable if he gets fired - but I believe his background is 3-4.

    John Fox may also be on his way out.
     
  4. JB

    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    Mike Nolan if we could pry him away
     
  5. El Tejano

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    I always thought he ran a 4-6 defense.
     
  6. Mr teX

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    Singletary is getting fired this year..bet on it.

    I'm all for Fox or Lewis.
     
  7. Section516

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    IIRC, Singletarys never been a coordinator?
     
  8. scourge

    scourge Digression King

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    I'd be looking at Fox or Nolan.
     
  9. Hervoyel

    Hervoyel The Right Track

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    I really don't think a new DC is going to somehow make this all better and if we get a sacrificial firing of Bush along with some kind of "Well, you gotta look at the circumstances...." explanation for keeping Gary I think I'm going into self-imposed exile until we get well into 2011 (assuming play and not lockout). I just have no faith at all in this team under Gary's leadership. None.

    I believe that if McNair won't replace Kubiak after we lose two more games (and I fully expect us to lose two more games) then McNair won't have the stones to make Kubiak accept a DC who Gary gets no say in.

    I don't think he'll do it. I think they'll hire somebody else and Gary and Rick will have input and it will be same shit, different day.
     
  10. Big Lou

    Big Lou Stop Clowning

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    This team needs a 4-12 DC with our Secondary. That would be 4-DL, 3-LB's, and 12-DB's. Maybe we could keep a QB under 300 yard passing that way.............
     
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    Big Lou Stop Clowning

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    I know its a crappy attitude, but I just want somebody fired period, I want blood after this season. I know thats not very Christmassy, but there needs to be a sacrificial lamb given to the football gods. Hell they could fire the Waterboy and that would make me a little happier right now. Perhaps a public flogging, or maybe a coach or two in a stock!!!!!
     
  12. Norg

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    ANy good DC for the college Level Looking to take the next step up on our radar ?????????????
     
  13. drs23

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  14. Big Lou

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    I'll take a Pop-O-Matic Bubble with 6 different defensive plays on the sides of the die. It can't be worse than what we have now, and it would be cheaper than a real DC for Bob.

    Just one request all 6 defensive plays keep the Secondary at the LOS instead of in the Parking Lot like the current system. I know I'm not a coach and this isn't scientific or anything, but everytime I see the CB's up on the recievers the front 7 get pressure and the QB throws an incompletion, but maybe its just me...........
     
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    Maybe we could get Gregg Williams from N.O. or Ron Rivera from San Diego, both have proven track records and might be future HC candidates.
     
  16. playa465

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    I thought it couldnt be lateral movement for coaches from 1 team to the next? In the case of Williams, I think Sean Payton came out of his own pocket to get him to the Saints. He has a ring with them, so what motivation would he have to come here? Both would be upgrades though.
     
  17. beerlover

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    Bush remains & they bring him reinforcements via free agency & the draft. If it does not work out.... next season they all go its a package deal from HC to his assistants they stand together & if they can't cut it next year :shoot:

    Seriously guys & gals what if they can turn it around? I would much rather see them do it in HOUSTON than in another city like DENVER if all we needed was one more year of experience to figure it out :)

    But if there must be change for the sake of change let it be Bums kid :wadepalm:
     
  18. Hookem Horns

    Hookem Horns That Server Guy Staff Member

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    Not getting rid of Kubiak, firing Bush and hiring a new DC is no different than polishing the brass on the Titanic as it is going down. It's NOT going to change anything.

    Weren't we swapping out OC's with Dom Capers?? Did that change anything??
     
  19. El Tejano

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    I always thought our team would flourish in the 4-6 defense. When I saw Mark Anderson get his sacks, I noticed he just lined up way outside and speed rushed. That gave me more impression that a guy like him could really flourish in that style defense.
     
  20. leebigeztx

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    Ron meeks from carolina. He was the dc in indy under dungy for all those years. They gave up yards,but didnt give up the points. Not to mention, they played alot of young guys. The d-line is set up to 1 gap really. Move smith inside next to okoye and have them responsible for 1 gap. Give the ends a upfield rush every play and tackle the back on the way to the qb. Play simple,play fast. In carolina despit a pathetic offense,their defense played well this year. Plus,he comes back to a division he knows well.
     

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