DB wish list

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  1. Sco-tai

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    It's fairly obvious that we're going to have to dig through other camps "scraps" to find some DB's that can help out while we wait for our guys to recover. And this could possibly involve using some of said "scraps" as starters even. With that in mind, are there any guys out there you think have a good chance of getting cut, but would be a quality pick-up considering the Texan's situation?

    The 1 guy that immediately came to mind for me was a DB we drafted right after Glen Earl also from ND....Vontez Duff. I remember really liking him when he was in college and would love to see us get him back. He's currently listed at the tail end of the Giant's depth chart, so it looks like we could get him pretty soon.

    Anyone else that looks like a good possible "sleeper"?
     
  2. real

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    I don't think the Texans are going to get any more yound guys...or relatively young...I think they would like to add more DB's in line with the experience of Dexter McCleon...
     
  3. El Amigo Invisible

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    I think this is a great thread to start! I do not have answer for you but I wanted to ask a question. Why didn't we draft a CB or DB in this year's draft?I know we needed a tight end/O Line but werenh't there a couple of steals in the later rounds?
     
  4. whiskeyrbl

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    what about Ahmed Plummer from SF ?
     
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    He retired :francis:
     
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    At the rate we're going we will all end up wishing we could get Marcus Coleman to come back and play CB for us before long. I wonder if either he or Aaron Glenn will shake loose in Dallas?

    As another poster noted I think the young guys who can play are going to be harder to come by from here on out. We're going to see young guys who can't do much more than play special teams and old guys who've lost a step. In that case give me the old guy who can play since it's a stop-gap measure anyway.
     
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    You know Berman must have done an "Earth, Wind, and Fire" nickname on him. How could he not have? If he started an entire season while Ty law was out then you know Berman must have been stalking him for a highlight, ANY highlight just to say that.
     
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    What positions didn't we need this offseason? There were a limited number of picks:

    Worst DL in the NFL last year and were transitioning to a 4-3: Mario Williams
    We couldn't tackle. Did you watch the Seattle game last year?: DRyans
    Worst in the league in sacks allowed again: Spencer and Winston
    The franchising all-time best TE to date was Billy Miller: ODaniels
    Dominick Davis hasn't played a full season yet: Wali Lundy

    exactly where in the draft did the team not draft value and need?
     
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    We've needed a good secondary for a couple of years now. In fact, I remember having a glimmer of hope that Houston would trade out of the #1 spot and take Huff.

    The Texans' problems in the secondary weren't as noticeable because the rest of the team looked so bad, but with the teams we play against this year, we could be hurting due to a lack of secondary.

    Maybe next season is the year we draft/sign somebody else to the secondary...
     
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    There was no point in drafting a safety or corner since we already have Glenn Earl, CC Brown, Lewis Sanders, Chris McKenzie, etc., guys that we have not seen the best from.
     
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    This team had so many holes at then end of last year there was no way they were going to fill of fix everything. IMO, they did a great job of addressing the must needs (the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball) first to start to be competitive.

    Having said that, if you can get to the quarterback, your DBs work less or make marginal DBs look good.

    The front seven is way improved this year and the DB problem may not be as bad as everyone thinks if the front seven can control the line of scrimmage and get to the quarterback.

    Let's not start freaking out just yet and make rash decisions...

    Also, this is a 2 to 3 year plan to get this team to the playoffs, and there is no need to mortgage this team for this season. Another draft and free agency and this squad could be very strong next season.

    Patience is key here...
     
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    Example A--the Patriots in 2004 playing the guy the Texans just signed and WR Tim Brown as DB's after they had what 4 starters go down.
     
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    Exactly. We should fall about the middle in wins. I think another strong draft will kick us into upper 25% the following season. I think Smith/Kubes are building the team to last.
     
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    ummmm.... Tim Brown? you mean Troy... I would hope Tim Brown never had to play DB for the Pats
     
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    With this kind of need it makes one wonder why they didn't take a hard run at Ty law. Of course they did not know they would also have injuries in this area but it was still an area that needed to be addressed.
    Being an Eagles fan first and (trying to be) a Texans fan 2nd, I can tell you they should keep an eye on who gets cut from that camp. there are a couple of guys they're just not going to have roster space for,

    If matt Ware or dexter wynn get cut these are young guys who have played in big games and are still developing. Dexter Wynn is more of a nickle back situational DB but he also does kick returns OK

    I'm pretty certain at least one of those guys will not make the roster,
    Strickland is another guy but I think he will edge out both Ware and Wynn for the Roster spot. They may move Ware from CB to safety but they have pretty good competition there already.

    I am a homer when it comes to the birds but they really do stockpile and develop DB's very well. They do not develop receivers very well but DB's yes.
    Al Harris is a perfect example of this from the past he is afixture in Green bay and he was strictly a backup or situational guy for the eagles.

    If I were Kubiak I would look at whoever they place on the practice squad after final cuts at that position and go after him.
     
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