David Carr: 'I would have rather watched' from bench

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  1. Wolf

    Wolf 100% Texan

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    before the firestorm hits(and I hope one opens their mind and reads the article first )before it becomes a bashing thread ,



    I never understood why Capers didn't put Tony Banks in.. just to let the offense run with a veteran QB .. put SOMETHING on game film. I am not saying things would have been different ,but interesting piece IMO

    but what is done, is done

    http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/09/07/david-carrs-words-of-wisdom-for-matt-stafford-mark-sanchez/
     
  2. Ryan

    Ryan THIS YEAR

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    I thought from the beginning that HWWNBN should have learned the NFL a little more. It was almost a crime to put him on the field with that offensive line we had as his first NFL experience. But like you said, I don't know if it would have helped him or the team out in the long run.
     
  3. False Start

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    Interesting Wolf. If what hes saying is 100% accurate, it was worse than I thought as far as the first coaching regime goes. Watching the team those first couple of years, I several times wondered if the coaches were even paying attention.


    That quote made me say.....WTF? I'm wondering if he means live, or on TV?
     
  4. Ckw

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    No matter what the guy flat out did not/does not have the drive to be a quality NFL QB. It stood out to me how he didn't realize how much time would have to be spent on the field and watching tape. He thought he could just waltz into the NFL and treat it like college. He was wrong. God and family are important, but so was his job as an NFL player.
     
  5. JCTexan

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    He's getting plenty of time watching from the bench now. :spit:
     
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    DiehardChris You betcha!

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    David Carr is full of shit and I'm sick of seeing him blame everyone else but himself. I used to defend the guy, but he's shown his true colors. He can suck shit through a straw.
     
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    I don't know if you guys remember, but the Texans staff fully intended to have Carr sit and watch for at least a year. They worked really hard to bring in a veteran, but no one wanted the job. All of the available free agent QB's of any merit perceived this job as pinata duty, and the Texans staff was ultimately unable to sign a QB that they though would be a better option than starting the rookie David Carr. That was less a testimony to David Carr's greatness than it was to a lack of job applicants for the starting QB position of a first year expansion franchise.
     
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    whatever Dave.
     


  9. Vinny

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    pretty telling statement....dude doesn't have a lot going on upstairs.
     
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    agreed. dude has no accountability. he is making excuses even to this day. he had trent dilfer as a mentor and for him to say the 'first NFL game I saw, I played in' is the biggest load of BS I have ever heard....

    ...whatever helps him sleep at night..im sure that blanket of money doesn't hurt.

    i would watch the 's' bombs though...
     
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    Some people take the bull by the horns, and some shrink away and watch from the sideline. I think we know where DCarr falls.

    We have about 4 rookie/second year QBs that aren't lamenting having to start for their teams. They're going out there and learning on the job. And I bet the guys that succeed are staying late and watching tape and absorbing everything their coaches tell them. Not every rook QB comes into the league and plays under ideal circumstances. But not every rook QB has a missing set of balls, like DCarr.

    What a waste of our first couple of years in this league as a team. Guy is not a gamer. He needs to be coddled. Well, he has plenty of time with the Giants to sit on the bench and suck from his bottle.
     
  12. Vinny

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    The most pathetic part is when Carr's option was up, the Texans not only re-upped him but they exercised the longer option. Management should have had known what they had by year 3 and taken the out they built into the contract. For some reason, after 3 years they couldn't see this guy was not a leader nor could he impose his will on any team. It took the Panthers half a season before they signed 700 year old Vinny Testaverde to play instead of David milquetoast Carr.
     
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    Gotta say ... I pegged him wrong for a looong time. :crying:



    Now that I live in Ohio and am stuck with the Browns and the Bengals (we live in Columbus and I refuse to put out for DirecTV and NFL Sunday Ticket) ... it's sorta like Houston all over again, minus the feeling of a hometown team I've followed for a long time.

    Two perpetually underachieving teams that should be better but just can't get past themselves and their management.
     
  14. Honoring Earl 34

    Honoring Earl 34 Hey Koolaid

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    It's kinda like house shopping and entering a house where they cooked something that stinks . That house still smells long after their gone and you'll have to deal with it . That whole episode is still haunting this team and I guess there's not enough Killz to mask it .
     
  15. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    that's an understatement....you had a posse of people giving guys like me a hard time and giving neg rep to all the people who thought DC was no better than Rob Johnson...but I forgive. :heart:
     
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    Did I really give you negative rep for it? LOL if so I owe you a big one. Seriously though ... I really thought he could do it ... for the longest time ... until optimism gave way to the realization I was just hanging onto ugly denial. This was sometime last week ... j/k but it was waaay past due.

    Understatement though it may be ... at least I didn't call Mario Williams a "workout warrior" :thisbig:

    :)
     
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    Excellent point. A lot of people get jobs or opportunities that are above what they have done, and maybe a little in over their heads.

    But, by going for it and figuring it out for themselves without someone telling them how to do things is key to a lot of people succeeding. David Carr doesn't have this.

    This article clearly confirms what was obvious by year 4 of his career, and that was his heart was not with being a starting and successful QB in the NFL. That doesn't make Carr a bad person, but he took a lot of money from McNair on the belief that he was that kind of person.

    Which brings me to...

    How could there be that much disconnect between McNair and his franchise QB?

    And that answer brings us to...
    Another excellent point.

    My concern is that McNair is still evaluating all talent (front office, coaching, and players) either in the same manner as he did with David Carr, or not figuring the right way to evaluate talent.

    The David Carr problem is really a systemic issue to the entire Texans organization that stills needs to be addressed and fixed. And it starts with Bob McNair.
     
  19. Honoring Earl 34

    Honoring Earl 34 Hey Koolaid

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    I don't think he evaluates talent , I think like Thomas Jefferson , McNair got to close to the help . I think he does have a mental picture of what a Texan should look and act like .
     
  20. hollywood_texan

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    What does this have to do with anything?

    And that look and act has nothing to do with putting together a winning football team in the NFL. Which indirectly impacts the evaluation of talent in adverse ways.
     

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