Cowboys and Ray Lewis

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  1. HoustonFrog

    HoustonFrog Dallas Frog

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    I kept hearing this on the radio yesterday and found it in the Cowboy blog. This just makes no sense to me except in one department...someone to knock heads in the locker room. In fact after the Ravens defeat at the end of the season there were many announcers that said Dallas lacked a Ray Lewis to keep things in order. Maybe that is what started the wheels turning. On the negative side...1) 3 years would be too much time and tie up too much money for an older vet 2) age. He played at a PB level last year but if you take his last few years into account he was declining and I think it will continue soon. 3) The arrest stigma. The guy hasn't been a cancer or a bad guy...adn he was acquitted but that just keeps the fires burning for haters 4) why would he leave a team that just missed the SB...with rookies at key positions?Ryan leaving may be one thing. He wouldn't leave the Ravens..a better TEAM.

    Overall I think it would be a move to fix locker room problems but all in all it would be a waste of money and years for an older guy.

    http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/a...-lewis-join-the-valley-ranch-ci.html#comments

     
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  2. DiehardChris

    DiehardChris You betcha!

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    An accessory to murder would be a perfect addition to the Cowboys.
     
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  3. False Start

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    You typed the words right out of my mouth. :heh:
     
  4. LonerATO

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    I just dont see him leaving the Ravens to go play in drama filled Dallas. Ray is a team player and the Cowboys are the farthest thing away from a "team"
     
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    I would love to see Lewis get after TO when he starts to pout and whine.:thinking:
     
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    C'mon now Chris, he was acquitted of those charges. He was found guilty for a mere "obstruction of justice" charge.



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  7. Polo

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    Ray Lewis leaving the Ravens may not be totally his choice. I'm sure they'd love to have him back, but if they aren't willing to pay what Dallas is willing to pay Ray may take that nice little 3 year going out the door prize.
     
  8. HoustonFrog

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    See #3 on my list. :whip: Look at the frenzy here already. It's like flys to crap. Funny how it isn't brought up much in Baltimore anymore and he is considered a badass there but it would follow him to Dallas.
     
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  9. HoustonFrog

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    Exactly..just like Artest spending minimal days in the pen for slapping around his wife. All misunderstandings.:). All of these guys are innocent. ;)
     
  10. dalemurphy

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    The following is from today's Dallas Morning news (and it made my month!):

    Sources: Dallas Cowboys often tardy, undisciplined in '08


    09:20 AM CST on Tuesday, January 20, 2009
    By CALVIN WATKINS / The Dallas Morning News
    cwatkins@dallasnews.com

    MOBILE, Ala. – As they gather here for Senior Bowl scouting assignments this week trying improve their product on the field, the Cowboys officials also face significant issues off the field.

    Multiple sources close to the team paint a picture of turmoil inside the locker room far greater than originally thought, and the organization is determined to solve the problems. Sources say there were many issues this season that call into question team discipline, commitment and accountability.

    Owner and general manager Jerry Jones said Monday night he would not discuss certain aspects of the team, including the status of wide receiver Terrell Owens, the coaching staff – specifically offensive coordinator Jason Garrett – and recently cut cornerback Adam Jones.

    Jones did say he will talk about other issues regarding the organization Tuesday. Coach Wade Phillips wasn't available for comment Monday night. He declined to talk to reporters earlier in the day.

    One of the key off-season disciplinary issues the team must address is tardiness.

    The team charter left late for road games five times this season because players were late to the airport according to three sources. The total represented more than half of the eight regular season away games. Sources declined to name the late players. The Philadelphia trip was delayed by more than an hour.

    The punishments left little incentive for promptness. Fines for being late or missing meetings and injury treatment sessions were far lower under Phillips than they were under former coach Bill Parcells.

    Under Parcells, players were fined $5,000 for being late to meetings, and as much as $12,000 for missing an injury treatment session.

    This season, players were fined $100 for being late to meetings or missing a treatment. During training camp, linebacker Anthony Spencer was featured on HBO's Hard Knocks after being fined $100 for missing a treatment session. But sources said Spencer was not alone in missing such treatments.

    Owens was a repeat offender in being late for team meetings, sources said. With the Cowboys needing to defeat Philadelphia to reach the playoffs in the season finale, Owens was late for a Dec. 23 meeting, citing traffic problems two days before Christmas. Owens declined comment on his tardiness.

    Meetings would sometimes start 10 to 15 minutes later than scheduled, those sources said.

    Phillips may not be completely to blame for the smaller fines. A source said Phillips asked Jones to raise the fine total but was rebuffed by the owner.

    Jones acknowledged some players are late for meetings. However, he said sometimes a player is late because he has to meet his media responsibilities or had a legitimate excuse.

    Compounding those disciplinary issues, was a growing problem of relationships between players and coaches. Sources said players lost respect for defensive coordinator Brian Stewart, who came across more as a player than a coach and made what they termed questionable play-calling.

    Another source expressed concern that Phillips treated the offensive and defensive players differently, favoring the defense. It's not unusal, however, for a defensive-oriented coach such as Phillips to spend more time with one unit.

    According to five sources, several offensive players lost respect for Garrett for his failure to corral quarterback Tony Romo in practice. Romo, sources said, often forced throws in practice and often did not treat practice work consistently.

    The quarterback's practice habits were so bad, sources said, that they affected the way he played in games and could have factored into the offense's problems.

    Sources said Owens was upset that Romo directed more passes at tight end and close friend Jason Witten as opposed to the other receivers who he deemed open. Owens has declined to discuss that issue.

    The relationship between Garrett and his offensive players will be an important issue for the unit to work out. Garrett was unsuccessful in his bid to land recent head coaching jobs in Denver, Detroit and St. Louis.

    Specifically, the relationship between the mercurial Owens and Garrett is in question. Other receivers respect Owens and often share his sentiments.

    When asked about his relationship with Owens, Garrett said Monday, "I have a lot of respect for him, certainly as a player, we'll just leave it at that, OK?"

    Wide receiver Patrick Crayton said last week during an interview on ESPN that Owens' relationship with the coaching staff was a concern.

    "By the end of the season, I would say maybe a little rocky," Crayton said, "A little rocky because I think sometimes when you sit down and you have man-to-man talks, I know Terrell is one of those guys who is not going to bite his tongue, and if you're not going to be straightforward with him, there's not going to be a respect there."

    Romo, according to a source, was also personally offended when Garrett was critical of his play late in the season.

    How Garrett deals with these communication issues is a concern going forward. Even Phillips, who rarely publicly singles out players for miscues, noted a late-season interception thrown by Romo was careless.

    "We're going to talk about working hard and continuing to go forward with our team, and we have a great opportunity this off-season," Garrett said of the communication failures. "Guys are going to come back and we'll have a tremendous resolve about us trying to get better and work hard in the off-season."
     
  11. Texan JBZ

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    My only question would be where in the hell is Jerra getting all of this money under the cap to sign these players? Just look at the dough he shelled out last offseason! And with Ware set to re-up, how would the Girls be able to sign Ray Lewis to that size of a contract?
     
  12. HoustonFrog

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    That is where he and is son, Stephen, do their best work. If Jerry could translate that into bringing in people who knew about players, it would be nice.
     
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    No surprise as a fan. What gets me is this was going on AND they were one of the most penalized teams and had one of the highest turnover totals but Wade is somehow not responsible for the lazy actions?Why would you keep a guy whose discipline is zero, whether Jerry is pulling the strings or not.

    It also doesn't surprise me about Romo. I think he has loads of talent but a 2 cent brain in big games and that is all part of practice. I also find him immature in the way he pouts after bad plays and how he sits and mopes on the bench. I think he loves the attention but really could give a crud in the end whether he takes them somewhere. To him it is a game with benefits like money and hot girlfriends.

    I like all the turmoil right now. I thought Jerry realized his errors and brought in Parcells. Now I'm hoping the turmoil smacks him and he makes even more changes.
     
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    If the cowboys were truly interested in fixing the locker room they would released T.O. However, I don't see that happening but it's a good thought to bring in a guy who would have the clout to tell T.O. to STFU and back it up.

    That said I don't see it happening.
     
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    Yeah, he also hates T.O with a passion.
     
  16. HoustonFrog

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    According to my brother that does stuff for them you will start seeing moves in March when there are less salary implications, etc. If he and others get cut or are left out in the cold, I'd imagine it would be then.
     
  17. DiehardChris

    DiehardChris You betcha!

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    Hey, I love the guy. I think he's the greatest inside linebacker in the history of the NFL - and one of the biggest bad-asses too. I'd love to have him on the Texans.

    I'm just saying - accessory to murder. He'd be a perfect fit.

    Problem with bringing him to Dallas is that you need about three more of him to instill any sort of pride into that locker room full of quitters and egomaniacs.
     
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    Right on the last sentence. As a fan I have complained about that all season. One of the 3 needs to be a coach.
     
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    If Ray Lewis leaves Baltimore for another team and a sweet contract, don't expect him to play at his inspired level that he has had throughout his carreer. I'm sure he knows his football days are coming to an end and it would take too much work for him to get emotionally attached to a new city and new team to become the Ray Lewis everyone has branded into their minds.
     
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    It is not Wade's fault, it is the owner's fault because he undermines the coaches and makes them weak and then players like romo and team-obliterater do what ever the hell they want.
     

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