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actually reggie scored from scrimmage in the 9th game and won the 5th game. How many gms has Mario won?It took Reggie about 11 games to score from scrimage on a top 5 offense...sounds like a project to me.
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actually reggie scored from scrimmage in the 9th game and won the 5th game. How many gms has Mario won?It took Reggie about 11 games to score from scrimage on a top 5 offense...sounds like a project to me.
Reggie was an impact from day 1. Being an impact isn't all about scoring. How many critical 3rd down catches did Reggie had for the Saints prior to scoring. How many times were defensive players drawn to him on fake reverses. He is one of the biggest reason the Saints have the #1 offense in the NFL (besides Payton and Brees of course).It took Reggie about 11 games to score from scrimage on a top 5 offense...sounds like a project to me.
If deflecting a game tying 2 point conversion pass counts as winning a game, then at least one.actually reggie scored from scrimmage in the 9th game and won the 5th game. How many gms has Mario won?
QB pressures are a lot more signficant then sacks. The last two seasons, the sack leader has had 16 sacks, one per game on average. Say about 25 pass attempts a game, a sack imapct 4% of all passing plays...not too great. Consistantly pressuring the QB, forcing him to throw the ball before he wants to and hitting him after the throw are much bigger factors in stopping an offense then one play which forces negative yards. Unfortunately, there is no effective way to measure pressures in a box score, meaning a DL's impact often is undervalued unless you watch the games.Um, how am I lying with those stats? Im showing all important defensive stats for Dl of every DL taken in the 1st round.
This is a post condeming Mario's impact through stats...if you cant see the corrolation between your argument for Bush and our defense of Mario...Reggie was an impact from day 1. Being an impact isn't all about scoring. How many critical 3rd down catches did Reggie had for the Saints prior to scoring. How many times were defensive players drawn to him on fake reverses. He is one of the biggest reason the Saints have the #1 offense in the NFL (besides Payton and Brees of course).
Like I said impact isn't only measured by how many times he has scored (though he does have 5 TD's in the last 2 games and 2 100+ recieving days in those games also). Also for everyone that is going to say he isn't an NFL runner, over the last 4 games he is averaging 4.5 YPC.
I am in no way saying Mario isn't an impact because of his stats. He isn't an impact because he isn't an impact (stats or not). He disapears more often than not, getting blocked by one guy (I have seen him get handled by TE's). Thats not what an impact defensive linemen does.This is a post condeming Mario's impact through stats...if you cant see the corrolation between your argument for Bush and our defense of Mario...
Like I said, next year will be the tell.With the exception of Wimbley and the Browns, all those players are on defenses that feature a bevy of studs. Mario doesn't have that luxury and has his two DT's out for the season as well...puts a ton of pressure on him...and he's got an injured foot and has been gutting it out. Doesn't change the fact that teams aren't running toward Mario.
Do you think TExans fans will sell thier tickets to Saints fans next year so it can be a home game for us? Dallas "fans" were pathetic to sell 10000 tickets to Saints fans and give up the home field advantageWe will see next year, as the New Orleans Saints will be coming to Reliant Stadium.
Well honestly, Bush has had two good games so far so I'd hold off on calling him Jesus. Vince hasn't really put up a ton of stats yet his team wins but I'm not ready to crown him anything either. It's just WAAAAY too early to call anyone a bust or otherwise.
Personally, I think TEN needed Young. I think NOLA got a player who's going to be good for them and considering Deuce's injury history, served as a nice insurance policy too, and Houston needed help EVERYWHERE and Mario is the guy that works for them.
I hope you are right about Mario. But the fact remains. He takes plays off, disapeers more than often and can be blocked most of the time with one guy. I know fans are fans and they want to stick up for their team (like most fans), but facts are facts. Young could have been used, Reggie could have been used. And come next years draft the Texans are still looking to fill holes at OT (D'Brick), QB (Young) and RB (Bush). One of which could have been filled last year.Houston was expecting their RB to have routine knee surgery and be ready to play this season. They gave the guy a big extension and gave Carr a big extension as well before draft day. It wouldn't have made any sense whatsoever to throw that kind of cash at backups. To say that Reggie is the reason for the Saints turnaround is doing a huge disservice the the real reason they're successful...Brees. New Orleans has had talent, just not at the QB position. Good coaching has been right up there for the Saints too. Bush's TD return with perfect blocking by everyone on his team did win that game. Good for Reggie.
Next time you watch the Texans play, count the number of times teams run the ball to Mario's side. It doesn't happen very often. He's young and raw, but has shown flashes of brilliance, for example...the game vs. the giants. Mario was a wild man. He and DeMeco are going to be a very nice foundation on defense for a long time.
I'm not trying to jump into another draft debate, but the pass rush was a pretty big hole as well. He was the top rated defender on the draft board.I hope you are right about Mario. But the fact remains. He takes plays off, disapeers more than often and can be blocked most of the time with one guy. I know fans are fans and they want to stick up for their team (like most fans), but facts are facts. Young could have been used, Reggie could have been used. And come next years draft the Texans are still looking to fill holes at OT (D'Brick), QB (Young) and RB (Bush). One of which could have been filled last year.
The taking plays off is total BS. Mario isn't double teamed every play but he is often chipped, has played through injury for most of the season, and every DL "can be blocked most of the time" with one guy. It happens, oh, I don't know, well over 80% of the time across the NFL, even in the case of your perennial greats.I hope you are right about Mario. But the fact remains. He takes plays off, disapeers more than often and can be blocked most of the time with one guy. I know fans are fans and they want to stick up for their team (like most fans), but facts are facts. Young could have been used, Reggie could have been used. And come next years draft the Texans are still looking to fill holes at OT (D'Brick), QB (Young) and RB (Bush). One of which could have been filled last year.
He still cant run the ball though. He is a great receiver, but from what I've seen of him running the ball, he will never be a feature back.bush has learned the speed of the NFL and is learning to run upfield. As you can see in last few gms he has been a stud.
Over the last 4 games he have averaged 4.5 YPC. Also, unlike most rookie backs the shares the carries with PRO-BOWL RB Deuce McAllister. The Saints give Reggie 5-8 carries a game, Deuce gets 20+.He still cant run the ball though. He is a great receiver, but from what I've seen of him running the ball, he will never be a feature back.
For one, Deuce was a Pro Bowler, but is no longer. Two, he has had multiple games with 15 carries or more and has not produced. 4.5 yards per carry is nothing when you only get 5 carries....you need an actual sample to create an accurate average...and he still dosnt have a run longer then 18 yards... but if he can get by as a receiver and "decoy" more power to himOver the last 4 games he have averaged 4.5 YPC. Also, unlike most rookie backs the shares the carries with PRO-BOWL RB Deuce McAllister. The Saints give Reggie 5-8 carries a game, Deuce gets 20+.
The taking plays off is total BS. Mario isn't double teamed every play but he is often chipped, has played through injury for most of the season, and every DL "can be blocked most of the time" with one guy. It happens, oh, I don't know, well over 80% of the time across the NFL, even in the case of your perennial greats.
Reggie's had a number of bad games and Mario's had a number of good games where he has made a very tangible difference outside of the stat column. It's okay to admit you are a Saints fan and are happy with your pick without talking ignorantly about ours.
Multiple 15+ carries? Try 1 game with 15 carries (thats it). He also averaged 4.5 YPC in that game.For one, Deuce was a Pro Bowler, but is no longer. Two, he has had multiple games with 15 carries or more and has not produced. 4.5 yards per carry is nothing when you only get 5 carries....you need an actual sample to create an accurate average...and he still dosnt have a run longer then 18 yards... but if he can get by as a receiver and "decoy" more power to him
Oh, and Reggie isnt the only one splitting carries- Maroney seems to be doing just fine, even DeAngelo Williams is doing better running thr ball
LOL! No doubtThis is a great thread. I haven't heard this stuff before.
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6 months ago
Signed,This is a great thread. I haven't heard this stuff before.
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6 months ago
Are you still gonna be quoting Mario's scouting report 3 years from now?Signed,
3 years from now this will still be the topic