Coby Fleener TE

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  1. srrono

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    LZ is pretty accurate but far as Texans go I could see him giving Smith an opportunity to trade down & pick up an extra 2nd. depending what WR's are still on the board, Coby could actually add some value here without being selected. :)
     
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    We probably should draft a TE if we don't retain Dreessen. If Fleener can be a Gronk type player, we could let OD go in 2013 and save some money. I think Fleener will be a 2nd or 3rd round pick though. Not sure we can afford to spend that on a TE. There are other guys with that sort of size and speed coming out that will be available in later rounds like Rhett Ellison, George Bryan and Ladarius Green. Personally, I like Green:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIY2E556BdY

    Could add some bulk, but has a big frame and long arms. Could be picked up in the 4th round.
     
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    I don't really want to take a TE high in this draft. Fleener is a beast though.

    I would prefer to keep Dreesen. If we lose him let's take George Bryan later in the draft. I think we might have something in Graham and I'd like to get him on the field and see what it is.
     
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    I'm all over the monster TEs that NE has, and would love to emulate that.

    Gotta have huge hands like Gronk, though.
     
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    Who is the next Jimmy Graham?
    The copycat nature of the NFL will lead scouts and coaches to spend most of the week searching for a big, athletic tight end with the ability to create mismatches in the passing game.Coby Fleener could be the next in a long line of game-changing tight ends to hit the NFL.

    Stanford's Coby Fleener and Missouri's Michael Egnew enter the week with the biggest fanfare after their highly decorated careers, but they also have the games to match the hype. Both are polished pass catchers with sneaky speed and athleticism, and their natural ability should shine as deep middle threats.

    Louisiana-Lafayette's Ladarius Green
    doesn't rank as a household name yet, but his tantalizing combination of size, speed and athleticism could make him a star by the end of the week. At 6-foot-6, 240 pounds with 4.7 speed, he is the Graham clone that scouts could fall in love with after watching him excel against the competition this week. Graham rose from obscurity to mid-round status following a strong week in Mobile in 2010, and Green could be in line to experience a similar rise with a strong performance.

    http://www.nfl.com/seniorbowl/story...nterest-at-senior-bowl?module=HP11_hot_topics
     
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    I definitely could see us trading down this year unless someone they love falls. Maybe if Jefferys is there at our pick a team may make us an offer we can't refuse.
     
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    With Dreesen likely to walk.....and the Kubiak mythos involving TEs and his heavy usage of them....and this draft seeming to have a couple nice picks to make at TE......do we really think this year won't have another TE selection?
     


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    Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! We don't want other teams to find out about him! Kubes can get him in the 3rd!
     
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    This is who I'd like to see us get also.
     
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    I've seen a little bit of him last year and has it in my notes to check him out this year. I've collected 3 games so far but hasn't got the time to get to it.

    However, I stumbled onto a teammate of Derek Wolfe (Cincinnati).
    His name is Adrien Robinson.
    This guy is listed at 6'6 - 267 lbs.
    He's much more fluid than Hill.
    I saw him made an incredible catch in a game against the Vols.
    (you probably can find it on youtube).
    Toward the back of the end zone for a 13yd TD; he didn't need to, but he kept both feet in bound (dragging the second one.)
    http://espn.go.com/ncf/video?gameId=312532633

    There's a few highlights out there including a 72-yd catch and run against Miami (Ohio); this one shows him with great hands and concentration
    - unlike Jacoby :ahhaha:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZp4K4wTlag&feature=related

    This guy may go undrafted, but IMO, he looks more like the 4th rounder that Hill never was.
    Better blocking, better hands, better agility and speed.

    He doesn't see a lot of pass thrown his way because:
    The Bearcats run more than they pass.
    They are a spread team that also employ the TE or HB.
    They use another TE to share the load since they both have to block.

    And look what I found:
    He was a receiver in HS.

    This is a piece on the Bearcats HS signing in 2007:
    http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/cinn/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/SigningDay.pdf

    "Adrien Robinson 6-5 225 WR Indianapolis, Ind.
    Warren Central H.S.
    Played for first school in Indiana history to win four consecutive state crowns...caught 39 passes for 563 yards and five TDs over his final two years.."
     
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    After watching the 3 games, I wonder what the future holds for Green.
    He has the build of a receiver.
    He lines up more often at receiver than at TE as Louisiana Lafayette runs a system that is close to a pure spread (quite similar to Missouri).

    Green has a lot of work to do in the blocking department, especially in-line.
    Right now he will look like Dallas Clark against Mario if asked to block the "pretty good" NFL DEs and OLBs.

    I'm thinking that he might have to make the switch to receiver or some hybrid role like Casey.
     
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    he could be used in a similar style as hernandez or graham (to name 2 successful TE's in the league right now) But I agree he doesn't fit what we ask our TE's to do
     
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    Schaub doesn't need a Mike Wallace guy unless he can get a relay man on his deep throws . Green is a smooth player with an 81 inch wingspan , Matt can place the ball where Green can get it .
     
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    ....now that wasn't very nice

    The Schaub has his eyes on you now buddy
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    I'm the party pooper, but I just don't the see why the penchant for looking at these receiving TEs. Daniels, Dreesen, Graham and if need be Casey more than fulfill those rolls. If Dreesen goes then so be it, if anything I wanna see a blocking TE. The Pats offense is geared to throw and go from the shotgun probably 85% or more, but their WRs on a whole are nothing special so they utilize their TEs a lot more (as they should with the ones they have). I see our offense much different, with way more balance. A few years ago everyone (probably me too) here, was dogging Kubiak for taking so many TEs. Forget Belichick, we need to focus on our own things. I know we have lots of talent and adding quality depth is the luxury of that but we do have needs within that depth.
     
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    LZ is pretty accurate in terms of talent, but far as Texans go could you see them taking a TE in the first round? Let's view it from BPA perspective, if Fleener is higher rated than Sanu & Wright, Alshon & Floyd are already selected would Coby have the higher grade on Texan board? IF Dreessen leaves via free agency it may bump that possiblity higher than we think it is right now.
     
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    Fleener in a 2 TE set would be dangerous. But The run game, which is the Texans bread and butter would probably suffer. That's why I would either improve the OL/DL or WR. Provided there was value in the pick @ 26.
     
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    I don't think we take Fleener with 26. I think he ends up with Indy after they let Dallas Clark go. By the way, we could pick up Dallas Clark in FA along with Peyton and Reggie Wayne. That would be pretty sweet.... :D
     
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    Comparisons to Jimmy Graham now from player personnel types.
     

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