Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by TEXANS84, Jul 28, 2004.
That will make it even more of a Cinderella story when we take it to em this year.
Thats what I've been doing, saving all the negative articles to email back to the editor's at the end of the season. Would be nice to throw something back in their face.
They messed up a bit on the oline, but on balance, a fair look at the Texans upcoming season. No suprise they are picking the Texans to finish fourth - heck, I am too. This may be the toughest, best, most competitive division in football. I am tagging them at 7-9 currently, and as the article states, that may still give us a fourth place finish. I would be thrilled with 7-9. The Texans are clearly on thier way...it's only a matter of time.
i dont care if we go 7-9 all the way to 16-0, just make sure you get Martin Nance if he comes out early and Boomer Grigsby in the draft...talk about surprises...
listen there is no way we are finishing last in the division... no way. I'm tired of all the disrespect we get in the league. This team has a chance but no one will aknowledge(sp?) it. you wut i say forget the media we'll see wut happens on the field.
Disrespect? Did you even bother to read the article?
If the Texans finish 7-9 or 8-8 it would be a good year.
The titans have a "skeleton crew?"
They have basically everyone returning on the offense. Losing McCariens won't be a disaster as they still have Mason, Calico and Bennett. Plus they added an impact TE in Troupe. Eddie George's numbers will be covered by Antowain Smith and Chris Brown. On defense, their line experience took a hit losing Kearse and Smith but they still have Carlos Hall and Kevin Carter. Schoebel is a big question but they have a good bunch of young guys in Starks, LaBoy, Long, and Odom backing them up. Their LBs and secondary are still intact from last year. If the titans beat the Colts in Week 2, they are my prohibitive pick to win the division. My only question on the titans is the DL production. I can see the Colts in their home opener on Week 3 sitting at 0-2 with a whole bunch of cheeseheads in the stands.
As I said somewhere before, I wouldn't be surprised if the AFC South ended up 10-6, 9-7, 8-8, and 7-9. If the Texans happen to be the 7-9 team, that means we were competitive as hell and probably in the wild card picture until the last couple weeks of the season. That's nothing to feel disrespected about, especially only in the 3rd year of the franchise.
I don't think he was kidding and I think he pretty much hit the nail on the head. Do you think the rest of the division is going to roll over and play dead because we'd like to win a few more games? Many point to our close losses last year at home vs. Tenn/Indy to show we will break out with a big year. But turn that around and look at our wins. The Jags win was a gift when Leftwich fumbled when he should have been running the clock out. Falcons win was against a nearly Vick-less team. Panthers, Bills, and Dolphins wins were all close games that could have gone either way. For all who point to our close losses and say we could have been 8-8 or 9-7 last year, we could just as easily have lost 3 of the 5 games we won and been 2-14. Keep in mind we were dead last in the AFC in yardage in BOTH offense and defense last year.
I think we can get to 7-9 this year but only with much improvement over last year. Anything more than 7 wins is unlikely for 2004 although hopefully we will get in position for a winning record in 2005.
Imagine how the Jags, Titans, and Colts fans would feel if we were picked to finish above them. That would be a healthy dose of "disrespect".
We have the talent to be one of the top teams in this division, but, 4th is not a unlikely scenario for us. As much as we've improved, so have the jags. Titans are still gonna be tough with McNair. Ofcourse, Colts will lead the division. Like it or not, were gonna be havin a tough division for years to come. Texans have the talent, but it's all on David Carr's shoulder now. He needs to start makin the right reads, and hittin 3rd and 4th receivers, and not panicing and throwing a INT, time for him to start showing that. If D. Carr starts doing that, you will see AJ light it up, Gaffney, and Braford. Miller, Joppru, D.Davis, all of them will put on a show if D. Carr does end up maturing this year. Then, we could definately be a contender if our D holds up.
in case you missed it bottle-o-bud, the co-mvps of the entire leauge just so happen to be from this division, and they haven't gotten any worse. the Jags are the only team that you could possibility make a case against, and with a healthy Fred Taylor, if Jimmy Smith can keep his nose clean (of Yayo that is), the addition of Reggie Williams, and no Bruenell looming over Leftwich's shoulder, should make it at best a push between us and them. Reality is a MFer ain't it!
The Colts probably win the division. The Texans, Jaguars, and Titans will fight and scrap for the number two spot. The Texans can, and will, win that fight and make it to the postseason. They could even win the division and make the Colts wonder what the heck went wrong.
We will have to wait and see,but I truly believe we will shock the football world this season IF we stay healthy.We were pretty good last year,if we could have avoided the injury bug......who knows how we would have ended up..TEXANS HUDDLE ON....GOTTA GO!!!!!
Heard on ESPN radio the other day that every SB winner in the last 5 years had a top 5 defense. In year one we were a top 15 defense with zero offense. That same defense is pretty much back and should be healthy with a couple of things to boost the unit. As it did in year one, it should keep us in every game. With that, the offense SHOULD be able to put some points on the board. Those two things should add up to a decent season. 8-8 is a resonable expectation. If things really jell and we get a couple of breaks then 10-6 is possible and that MIGHT get us the two spot in the division and MAYBE a wildcard spot. The colts will likely be at 10 to 12 wins to take the division and everyone else will be jammed up at about 8-8 IMO. With everyone behind the colts being so close, we could wind up 2nd or just as easly 4th. A couple of lucky bounces/injuries one way or the other for the three teams behind the Colts will be what decides the ending position.
While there is improved depth on the defense, the Texans are depending quite heavily on three defensive starters who are coming off significant injuries. I'm hoping that we will see Glenn, Payne and Walker return to 2002 form but we may have already seen the best from those guys. Glenn and Walker are no spring chickens and quite frankly I was kind of surprised at the money they gave Walker. Payne has had three surgeries since last September and we may not see him until the week before the Tampa game. One brief conversation with Glenn's surgeon left me with the opinion that his chances for re-injury are pretty high. Cross your fingers for all those guys because we need all of them in there and performing at a high level in order to have a successful season. Did I mention Glenn's backup is also coming off a knee injury?
And for the person who can't believe how anyone could ever pick the titans above the Texans in the standings.... speculate all you want but all I know is that we're 0-4 against them and they still have a very potent offensive attack and a Fisher defense that will get after you. Why doesn't anyone think that Long, Starks, LaBoy, Schobel or Odom can emerge as legit impact players as Kearse and Hall did before them? They will miss Robaire Smith and Kearse but they have several good young DLs behind them.
I think only 3 teams ranked in the top 5 of the 4 major statistical catagories for passing offense. The Titans, Colts and Vikings were the best passing teams in the NFL last year when you break down the numbers. The Titans were best in TD/INT of the group and YPC, while they ranked in the top 5 for total yardage and Steve McNair is still on top of his game. He has only missed 3 of his last 64 reg season contests although every year I keep reading about how he won't hold up. Of the three best passing attacks in the NFL, two are in the AFC South, so being on top of this division will not be easy.
We have improved, but now we are as good as average teams. This is a tough league.
Good ! I'm glad there're picking us last. The name of the game in football is
expectations. If you're picked to go 6-11 and you go 500, the season is a success. If you're picked to get into the playoffs and you go 8-8, the season is
a failure. We got to keep thinking long-term. And being in a really tough division
will make us better long-term to. To me the third year for an X team like us is just finally getting you're head above water, i.e. starting to get to the competitive level. If you want to win it all at once, spend more time in Vegas. And Good Luck !
Last in the devision is were i see us being at the end of the year with a 7-9 record.i mean cmon lets be serious! we have a lot of young talent and some solid veterans but we still have a lot of work to do. WHATS THE HURRY?
IMO, there are two basic kinds of fans. I'll call them the "Realistic", and the "Optimistic". I think some of you might see yourself in these descriptions. Exagerrations are for effect only!
The Optimistic fan goes into each season thinking his team is going to win it all. Every player on his team is head and shoulders above the players on other teams, unless a player from another team comes to his team, at which point a halo is permentaly attached until such time as that player is traded away, at which point the halo is removed, and they become a bum again. The team positives are accuented to the max, while the negatives are ignored. Every rookie will make the pro-bowl, there will be no injuries, borderline prospects are HOF candidates, and there is a permanent rainbow over the practice field, where sunny skies grow the most wonderful grass in the country. The other teams in the same division all suck, and their best player might make his teams practice squad. Every player should be nominated for Saint Hood, and any fan who dares to question them is just sacrilege, and should be burned at the stake.
The reaslistic fan goes into each season hoping for the best, but is prepared emotionally for the worst. The players on the team he roots for have just as many faults, injuries, lack of desire, and all the other foibles, of players on every other team in the league. David Carr is actually David Carr, not the second coming of Bart Starr, Domanack Davis is comparable to Duce Staley, not Walter Payton. The other teams in the division have good players too, and in some cases, actually better players, than his own team. He appreciates the talents of players on all teams in the league, and enjoys watching great atheletes play no matter which city they reside in. Steve Mcnair is actually better than David Carr, and he isn't afraid to admit this. If he predicts his team to finish 7-9, and not some ridicoulous pie in the sky number, it is because he actually believes it. He hopes he is wrong every year.....but invariably at the end of every year, he is right. Nor is he dissatisfied, calling for coaches heads, screaming insults at fans, players, and coaches, or threatening to file lawsuits when he is proven right. He doesn't get too high when things go well, nor does he get too down on his team when things go bad. He simply call em like he sees em, and tends not too sugarcoat.
Agree with the general sentiment but I think your Optimist category could be subdivided into "Unrealistic" or "Blind Homer" categories.
There's nothing wrong with being an optimist, as long as you remain realistic. That's kind of where I see myself.
Blind homerism often leads to the unrealistic views and expectations that are never met, leading to the frustrations you describe.
It's all semantics.
I love the enthusiasm that all of our fans bring forth but I've seen it go from unbridled enthusiasm to apathy in the blink of an eye so many times over the years ....
We need our fans the most when we are losing, not when we are winning. So far, Texans fans are doing a great job supporting this team. There is as much or more energy now as there was in Setember '02.
No judgements being made here -- just observations. People who spend their hard earned money on tickets - or those who can't afford to attend the games and follow on radio, TV, and various forms of media can be whatever fan they want to be. It's totally their choice. I happen to prefer to be around fans who arrive early - stay late and make a lot of positive noise while in their seats -- throughout good years and bad years.
I think I have found inspiration for the next Voice of the Fan piece...
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