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Clowney VS Mercilus VS Frank Clark

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  1. ColeThornton

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    Everything should be considered. Even penalties on the sideline at a critical time. Clowney seems to make more big mistakes at big times than most players. When comparing his production to someone else a more accurate comparison is a net comparison not just the gross.
     
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    Obviously I'm not good at sarcasatic posts.....
     
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    Martin and Mingo have zero offsides penalties
     
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    You’re doing it right .
     
  5. maverick512000

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    That's a pretty big bad though when a good line knows that they can routinely get him to jump off sides and pick up a free first down. Honestly if I was other teams I'd line whomever I've got that's best at that across from him and try and get him to do it every play. Being explosive off the ball is all well and good but when that explosion is blowing up in his team's face a lot that a problem.
     
  6. CloakNNNdagger

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    And you expect that the explosiveness of a DE or OLB would translate into sacks.
     
  7. maverick512000

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    Agreed, its why I never was impressed with Clowney. He's great against the run, who cares, this is a QB driven league and has been for 2 decades now. Plus you look at Clowney's stats and they are as close to identical as you can realistically get. That strikes me as a player that has either plateaued on their ability or is not putting any work into improving and I'm not seeing anything in Seattle to make me think otherwise. I didn't like the trade and think we could have gotten better value if it was handled different but I was, and still feel this way, all for moving Clowney off the team once his rookie deal was up.
     
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    So I’ve been watching Clowney tonight and it’s obvious he’s just not very effective with his hand in the dirt. Maybe we were using him right? He’s still only utilizing a bull rush or a speed rush. If he’s been working on his moves then he’s regressed back because I’ve not seen anything from him tonight. He’s no Donald, Mack or even JJ.......
     
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    Clowney made a good play there on the pass rush. When LA was backed up on its own goal line. The ol Bull Rush!
     
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    Frankly without JJ to strike fear into the QBs Clowney is getting exposed. Really lends credit to all the reports that is doesn't put the work in to improve and falls back on, admittedly, amazing athletic ability.

    Meanwhile Mercilus has stepped his game up to new heights and is putting himself in that "players we have to find money for" category. Thankfully our GM is a personael genius and will make sure we get great value and retain our players........yeah we're screwed.
     
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    That’s the totality of his toolbox.

    Im not sure how he avoided the roughing call on Goff. He got called for less with us.
     
  12. maverick512000

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    They're in Seattle.
     
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    Clowney is a athlete playing football vs a athletic football player. He's never been able to bend and that's why most oline just guide him past the qb.
     
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    Maybe so but he was the most double teamed edge last year and that opened things for everyone else. No question the defense is worse
     
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    No one said it wasn’t worse, just about anytime you lose a player without their clear replacement in place it’s worse, but it wasn’t near the impact some thought it would be. Clowney isn’t much help to Seattle but then Seattle is only paying half his price tag so value wise I guess they are getting their money’s worth. If he keeps playing like he is now then no way he gets that big pay day he wants from contender teams, he just isn’t worth the money.

    Even Frank Clark isn’t making a big impact on his new team. Week 4 and Mercilus is looking like the best of the bunch, could the Texans have accidentally picked the right player for once?
     
  16. TheKDog

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    Mervilus isn't drawing any double teams. I would guess clowney gets the bigger contract. He's still having an impact. Frank is a bust


    @PFF: A look at the top grades from the Seattle defense from TNF! https://t.co/Gdb84Qt4cj
     
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    That means diddly

    even with your edit after the fact
     
  18. TheKDog

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    What means diddly?
     
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    You never heard the term diddly squat?
     
  20. TheKDog

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    Yes. But which part means diddly squat?
     

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