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Clowney VS Mercilus VS Frank Clark

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  1. JB

    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    This one

     
  2. leebigeztx

    leebigeztx Keep it Movin!

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    I highly doubt he was double teamed more than JJ. When JJ was a wrecking ball, he was getting double alot. You rush your way into a double team
     
  3. TheKDog

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    Tweet from @SethWalder: No player was double teamed at a higher rate as an edge rusher last season than Jadeveon Clowney (33%), according to ESPN passrushing metrics powered by NFL Next Gen Stats.
     
  4. 417Texans

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    Clowney was not worth the cheddar
     
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    After seeing Clark in today’s game and Clowney in other games, haven’t checked out the Browns game yet.


    Mercilus, hands down, that bad ass is going to play himself out of our price range.
     
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  6. TheKDog

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    Not hating on mercilus but what did he do today? I felt watt and reader were being more impactful
     
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    I would pay Reader before I pay Mercilus. Reader could be our Vince Wilfork.
     
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    I should have been more clear, I was talking about the overall comparisons of the three. Clark got owned today and looked like an old man out there. To expand on the point Clark and Clowney have shown they can’t get to the QB and can’t put fear in defenses. Clowney at least is good against the run but what is Clark at if he can’t get to a QB?

    Mercilus isn’t as impactful for our team as Watt and Reader, you’re right on that, but compared to Clowney and Clark he’s a bad ass for us.
     
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    I agree Clark has been a bust. But I like clowney here because he soaks up attention so watt can get to the QB
     
  10. maverick512000

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    Honestly I haven’t noticed him gone. Watt seems to be doing just fine and Reader has really stepped up along with Mercilus.
     




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    The front part of our defense is doing just fine, it's the ass end we need to worry about.
     
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    thunderkyss It's good to be me... again. Staff Member

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    I like Reader, but he shouldn't be in the "get paid like a top 5 DT" category. He should get paid but it won't be anything like a top 10 pass rusher.
     
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    Did Mercilus play today
     
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    Mercilus was the one that cranked Patty's ankle, so yeah
     
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    Well, last year watt and clowney combined for 25 sacks and elite run defense. Don't think watt and mercilus will quite do that this year though they are very good
     
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    16.5 sacks were from watt. plus all JC's sacks were from trash team and he only got 9 sacks.

    watt and marciis already on pace to get more than 25 sacks together. what have you been watching?
     
  17. TheKDog

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    Watt has 4, mercilus has 5. They are on Pace for 24. That's more than I expected but with clowney not drawing away all those double teams it wi be hard for watt to get 16. Mercilus will have to make it up
     
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    Because Jj Watt can't beat a double team.
     
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    Charles Omenihu has the same amount of sacks as Clowney .
     
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    Charlie O was the steal of this last draft. He's only going to get better. A transitional guy from the Watt era. With Reader/Charlie O the DL is in good hand for the future. Charlie O reminds me of a young Ty Warren.
     

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