Chronic: Texans show support for Carr after nightmare in Tennessee

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  1. Texans34Life

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    If he is so confident on reforming himself after the Titans game, let's see how he fares against the Giants, Jags, and Bills in the upcoming weeks.

    I'm expecting Sage to replace him by the Bills game. Pull a Reich.
     
  2. Goldeagle

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    I believe Salaam apologized to david and McKenney actually dogged his fellow O lineman saying THEY need to play better, not david.


    But I see David getting killed against the Giants, Sage will be the starter and I will see if Sage is the man to take us to the promised land.
     
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    I can think of 8 million reasons Sage will not be our starter this season. Can you imagine how stupid thats gonna make Kubes look to Big Daddy Bob? Besides, ya gotta love the fight in David ...

     
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    He had one bad game. Carr has been immense this season, it would take a major skid for him to be pulled as starter and I really don't see that happening.
     
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    Yes you can. This is the type of attitude that coddling one guy can and will permeate a locker room. I know it is in Carr's defense, but it is BS and needs to be squashed, especially with so many rookies getting thrust into starting positions.
     
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    My thoughts exactly, why pull a guy that's been doing great all year (finally) if he has one bad half? We've invested time and money into this guy, and it was finally starting to pay off. Let's not let all of that go to waste, I still think Carr's our man to bring us to glory, when we get a decent O-line in front of him.
     
  7. TEXANRED

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    What I find funny is that at one point in time the Houston fan base called for Warren Moon's head and wanted Commander Cody Carlson to start. When it Finlay happened Cody pulled his groin and was out and Moon came back in and had one of the best games of his career.

    Little off topic here, any other old Oiler fan a little peeved the Vikings had a tribute for Moon? So far he has been honored in a city he never played in and and team he played three seasons for.
     
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    David Carr is God
     


  9. Vinny

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    I think I'm gonna be ill. David Carr shouldn't be mentioned with Steve Young, John Elway, Jim Kelly or Warren Moon....it's just not fair to those great HOF players. Carr isn't in their class and I find it amazing people keep mentioning Carr with those guys.
     
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    Frankly, I'm surprised any of them said anything. Not because the subject was Carr, but because the times I can remember the team standing up for each other publicly are very few and far between. In the past it has seemed to me they keep their heads down so that they aren't the next to "get in trouble".
     
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    The thing about Moon is he got here in 86' and wasn't any good until 88'. Also remember he struggled in the beginning of Pardee's Run and Shoot. Remember the butt whoopin we got from Glanville's kids the first game of the season?

    Never know, maybe Carr will turn into a gamer someday. I am still holding out hope. The New York game will tell his entire future. If he comes out firing and lights up the D then he is here to stay. If he comes out flat......its over.
     
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    Didn't I see that KC retired his number?!?!
     
  13. Vinny

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    we didn't hang out for 5 years waiting for Moon to get consistent. The RnS didn't work too well right off the bat in the NFL and it also didn't work without superstar talent. Bob Gagliano and Mouse Davis never could get it to work right up in Detroit. Moon made that offense work in the NFL after they worked out the bugs.
     
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    That's true, but I think the difference here is Kubiak. Regardless of what has happened, the team has a different attitude. Starts with "respecting your coach" IMO
     
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    Kubiak specifically relates David to these two. I don't think anyone on this planet could know more about it than Gary. Now, if that makes you sick.... just take some Advil and go lay down. I think you may be in for a long season (if not the length of Davids career).
     
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    I know. I was really just trying to compare. Moon wasn't good until Glanville installed a decent system and then didn't become a super star until Pardee played to Moon's strength of throwing it down the field.

    Much like Carr. He was in a crappy system and for four years didn't have anyone to guide him. I don't think Moon, Elway, Young, or even Aikeman's concussion prone self could have survived Capers, Pendry, and Palmer. You must admit Carr has preformed a thousand times better this season than in years past.
     
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    Well, you can sit him for a half. Something to break him out of a bad rhythm. However, you can't take away his job in the middle of his best season so far, particularly when it's also been one of the better seasons by any NFL starting QB.
     
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    the Texans are playing the freaking NY Giants this weekend in the Meadowlands, those same Giants that manhandled the Cowboys who manhandled the Texans, this is going to be ugly. We won't have to worry about David playing the 2nd half again & not because Kubiak pulls him out of the game for turnovers but because he is going to have to be picked up off the carpet and taken to the hospital for X-Rays.

    Last I checked Houston was leading the league in give aways with a -9 (6 int./9 fum.) while the Giants are a plus 1, wonder how thats going to work for Carr & the Texans. Not to mention the strength of the Giants defense is their defensive line w/- Michael Strahan, Osi Umenyiora, Barry Cofield & Fred Robbins. anyone care to guess how thats gonna match-up against this Texans O-Line?

    So why even put Carr into this position? Let Sage start & see if he can read & get rid of the ball quickly, not to mention get the running game working while David make his adjustments on the sideline & learn how to read defenses something he was never given the opportunity to do as a rookie, my guess its pretty hard to learn anything while layed out on your back 76 times in a season other than throwing INT's and Fumbling the rock.
     
  19. hollywood_texan

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    Carr is going to have to rebound agains the Giants on the road?

    Come on guys and gals, it's a long shot at best. It could happen, but I don't see the Texans offense putting up enough points on the board to keep up with a very good Giants offense.

    The Texans offense still hasn't scored a TD on the road in the first half. What have we seen that shows that is going to change? The offense is going to need to score 14 to 17 points in the first half to keep this game honest in the second half.

    More than likely, things are going to get a lot worse for Carr before they get better because of the competition the next two weeks, if he lasts that long.
     
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    Ok, so that makes the two of us not advocating that.
     

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