Chronic: Opponents are running all over the Texans

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  1. Texans34Life

    Texans34Life I BLEED TEXANS!

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    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/5287487.html

     
  2. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    Everyone knows our secondary blows...but even the coach states clearly that they may be doing a better job than our 'big time' (roll eyes) pass rushers who get all that top coin. You figure we would be at least solid vs the run...but we haven't been, even with all our overloaded fronts.
     
  3. Errant Hothy

    Errant Hothy Hypermediocrity

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    The question is; do you think it is scheme or talent?

    And after all the ranting about how much Rick Smith sucks, does anybody really take him seriously?

    I hate the bye week.
     
  4. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    You have seen Mario and his milquetoast pass rushing skills...if he's the best we got, that's the best we got. Asking him to stand up because he can't play out of a stance is a bit unnerving for me. I don't think that Smith is all that great a coach but even Bum Phillips became a better coach when he finally got some talent....it's no coincidence that his teams weren't as good when he went to the Saints.
     
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    Errant Hothy Hypermediocrity

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    I've also heard Kubiak praise Mario, only to have Smith says that they are not getting is pass rush; and I trust Kubiak over Smith. And I though you would as well after the debacle of the CB assignments in Carolina. I also have a hard time beleiving that we are generating that many coverage sacks, but I quess it goes hand in hand with Kubiak's praise of the secondary, espically the S and Faggins.

    I'm offically starting to get concerend about Mario's abilites, but hopefully his youth will help him and he'll put it together (is the top 06 draft rapidilly becoming one of the most disappionting/over rated in a long while?)

    Bottom line is, dispite my worries, I think Smith is the biggest issue woth the defense; and therefore I really don't give what he says much credence.

    I hate the bye week.
     
  6. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    You can't observe the games and see that we don't get much pass rush? You have to have someone tell you what you are looking at? Is that what I'm reading from you? Besides being a lousy pass rushing team there are only 4 teams in the NFL that defends the run worse than us as we give up nearly 5 yards a carry (4.6 ypc). I'm looking for a bright spot on the defense but they are all injured.
     
  7. Errant Hothy

    Errant Hothy Hypermediocrity

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    In a field that I have nothing near an expert level knowledge in...yeah, soemtimes it helps to hear from those you know more then I do. Is that so odd? I tend to think that Mario has more responsibilty then just generating sacks, and comments from Kubiak would tend to back that up; but I also know that Mario is still struggling.

    Mainly I found it odd that Kubiak and Smith tend to contradicte each other on this topic; and I'm curious if you have to believe one which one do you believe, and why? Personnaly I don't trust Smith as far as I can throw him, espically after watching his D purposly line Faggins up on Smith and not make an adjustment.

    I hate the bye week.
     
  8. drewmar74

    drewmar74 disgruntled

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    Hey, Hoth-Boy...

    How do you feel about the bye week?
     


  9. Errant Hothy

    Errant Hothy Hypermediocrity

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    I love it, why do you ask?

    :sarcasm:

    I hate the bye week.
     
  10. leebigeztx

    leebigeztx Hall of Fame

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    I guess when the offense to the ball 6 times in one game, 5 times in another, that it had nothing to do with the defense?
     
  11. Yankee_In_TX

    Yankee_In_TX Dance Lindsay!

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    Can I pick any past tense verb? :fans:

    I guess when the offense "farted" to the ball 6 times in one game, 5 times in another, that it had nothing to do with the defense?
     
  12. michaelm

    michaelm vox nihili

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    I Think that is what he was going for...
     
  13. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    I believe that they are all posturing. Smith risks losing his job and is telling it like he see's it and Kubiak has a long term interest in keeping Williams spirits high. I see spin from both. Mario isn't the biggest problem on defense....I'm not even sure he is a "problem", but he hasn't been a solution either. We don't rush the passer well and he is our weakside edge rusher.

    Bottom line is that we can see Dunta make some "difference making plays" on at least a semi-regular basis....we see Shaub do it, we see DeMeco do it, we see AJ do it....I'd just like to see Mario do it like an elite player is supposed to do it (and no, that doesn't mean he has to have sacks to make a difference) - just blow up a 3rd and something to get the team off the field or something like that on at least a semi-regular basis.
     
  14. Ckw

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    The fact is Mario doesn't have that quick twitch to be a weakside defensive end. He could certainly be a dominating strongside, but he's not a weakside pass rusher. Regardless of all the dough we have tied up in the defensive line, we won't be getting our moneys worth if we don't find a quick twitch guy opposite of Mario. Can anyone tell me why we don't play Shantee Orr a little more opposite Mario?
     
  15. TEXANRED

    TEXANRED Texan-American

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    The problem is we don't have any OLB's to speak of and the lack of a run stopping SS.

    We should be blitzing our LB's more but we don't. Ryans gets to the QB very effectively but used sparingly due to the lack of LB talent. Are OLB don't shed blocks well on run plays and our SS always seems to be playing out of position.

    Those are the problems I see.
     
  16. Errant Hothy

    Errant Hothy Hypermediocrity

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    Fair enough, about the coaching staff; I hadn't thought that Smith would already be in job saving mode. IF he is makes me wonder if Kubiak is ready to make a change, or if he is starting to rely on Bush more then Smith?

    I wonder if Kubiak would ever fire a coach mid-season?
     
  17. Specnatz

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    I know stats can be made to what ever you want so I will let others figure out what they mean.

    Tackles for loss - Mario leads the team with 3 and the next player has two, D Rob and Orr (parttime player).

    Sacks - Okoye - 5, Mario - 4, Ryans and Maddox ( split-time player) with 2 each, and N.D. Kalu with one. Not a single safety or CB with a single one. Not even an outside LB has a single sack and not a single one with at the very least two tackles for loss.

    Is this because of poor talent or poor scheming in the fact everyone is being dropped to far off the line of scrimage? I know we have issues with the secondary but you can not tell me it is this freak bad.
     
  18. TexansSeminole

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    It's probably both. I don't think Smith has alot of confidence in the defense and we all know what happens when you play to not make mistakes.
     

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