Chron: What does Carr need to get better? Success.

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  1. Texans34Life

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    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3755397.html

    LAKE BUENA VISTA, FLA. - At the AFC coaches' breakfast Tuesday morning, Gary Kubiak was bombarded with questions about the first pick in the draft.

    Reggie Bush or Vince Young?

    Kubiak was able to straddle the fence like a seasoned politician. He's getting so much practice he should be able to run for office.

    Kubiak attended the University of Texas pro day and called Young's performance "super."

    On Saturday, Kubiak will have dinner in Los Angeles with Bush before Southern California's pro day Sunday.

    Kubiak will not attend another pro day.

    Next week, Young will come to Reliant Stadium to meet with the Texans and put on a private workout for Kubiak and his staff. At some point, Bush will come to Houston and do the same thing.

    Perhaps the best way to gain insight into what the Texans might do with the first pick in the draft - selecting Bush, it says here - is to see what Kubiak says about David Carr.

    "Anybody can lead when they have success," Kubiak said. "When you start to be successful in this league, you gain confidence, and your teammates start to gravitate to you.

    "In Denver, the expectations are high, and Jake Plummer came from Arizona and walked into a totally different environment. Our job as coaches was to help make him successful so his teammates could see him prosper. Our players saw him pay a price, and they started to gravitate to him.

    "That's what we have to do with David. His work ethic's going to help him lead. Success will be the key to helping him lead."

    Pressure is on

    Carr has been meeting with Troy Calhoun, the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach. When Kubiak returns from Los Angeles, he'll begin meeting with Carr almost every weekday.

    "We've asked him to pay a special price this offseason, more than he's ever paid, and he's been willing to do that," Kubiak said. "We've put a lot on him, and he's doing everything we're asking. In talking to him, I don't have any doubts that it's inside of him.

    "I put a lot of pressure on myself, to be honest with you. I've got to get the best out of him. He's got it, and we've got to find it."

    Kubiak has watched every play of every game the past two seasons.

    "Any time you're not having success, you can get into some bad habits," Kubiak said. "I saw him start to press in a lot of ways. That's common, and if you're a competitor you're going to do that because you're going to try to do more.

    "We can't overload him, or the same thing's going to happen. As coaches, we naturally want to go fast teaching him our system, but we've got to slow down and make sure he's comfortable."

    Sacks have to stop

    One priority is to keep Carr from being the NFL's most sacked quarterback for the fourth time.

    "If anything, he's going to take even more responsibility from that standpoint," Kubiak said. "We told him we want people to see you take that upon yourself.

    "I want to play to his strengths. I see a quarterback whose athletic ability is his strength. He can present so many problems for the defense.

    "We've got to allow him to move around. We want him to throw on the run. I want him to take off. I don't want him to stay in the pocket all the time. I don't want him to be afraid to run on third-and-five."

    Kubiak doesn't think it's fair to ask if Carr is good enough to lead the Texans to a Super Bowl victory.

    "The key to winning a Super Bowl is having a great team," said Kubiak, who has been to six Super Bowls and owns three rings. "You can't put the pressure of being a Super Bowl team on one player.

    "I watched that take place with John Elway. He was one of the greatest ever, but we didn't win a Super Bowl until we got a good team around him. We're not going to put all that pressure on David. We've got to get good as a team and then go from there."

    Actually, Elway didn't win a Super Bowl until he got a great running back, Terrell Davis, to help him.

    "Well, uh, yes, one of those players might have been a great back," Kubiak said with a smile.
     
  2. TexansTrueFan

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    sounds to me we are gonna keep carr, and d.d yeah we'll be trading down :yahoo:
     
  3. TEXANS84

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    Isn't it great to read quotes from the coach and not hear the word "execute"?
     
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    haha yeah its a nice change of pace, and i have actaully seen kubiak have more than one facial expression WOW :redtowel:
     
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    Hmmm... didn't get the impression that a trade down was coming.
     
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    well me either it was a lil sarcasim of what i want to happen. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Caesar

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    What Carr needs to attain that success is an offensive line. They better get started.
     
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    I have a confession to make. This is Gary Kubiak. What I said in this morning's Chronic is the exact same thing I've been saying on this board for months. David's got his work cut out for him, but we all believe he's the guy for the job. He can make all the throws, he can be a leader on this team, and we're going to see to it that he does both. Football is about team, and people that try to act as it if it's all David's fault just don't "get it." I hope you'll still come to the games this year, we're going to have a good time winning. Besides, Bob's buying us all free chocolate cake and ice cream after we spank the Cowgirls.

    Sincerely,

    Gary Kubiak

    P.S. We're not drafting Vince. Sorry.
     
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    Let us hope that they try to add some lineman in the draft. I am certainly not sold on anyone we have other than Pitts.
     
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    I agree. I do not know who is going to play LT . I think Pitts should be at RT. I hope we beef up too on the OL.
     
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    - Flanagan is a Pro-bowl centre
    - McKinney was an above average guard before coming to Houston
    - Pitts will be good at LT if he starts training camp there
    - Wand showed promise at LT, so he should do well at RT
    - RG, between Weigart, Weary and whoever else is available, this spot should be ok
     
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    You're the man Gary, but this guy you're talking about Carr becoming;

    "We've got to allow him to move around. We want him to throw on the run. I want him to take off. I don't want him to stay in the pocket all the time. I don't want him to be afraid to run on third-and-five."

    Well that sure sounds like the guy you're not gonna draft.
     
  13. the wonger need food

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    "If anything, he's going to take even more responsibility from that standpoint," Kubiak said. "We told him we want people to see you take that upon yourself."


    This would be a refreshing change...
     
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    Watching the Texans' games I have noticed three things:

    1. David Carr holds onto the ball too long and doesn't know how to throw it away
    2. Carr rarely throws the ball over the middle of the field

    3. David Carr isn't a leader. He's a cry baby!

    I just don't think he is a QB that can take you to the next level and I don't think adding Reggie Bush will do all that much for him. Besides our most consistent player on offense is Dominick Davis. Drafting RB is like the lions drafting 3 WR in a row when they had huge holes elsewhere. Its make no sence!:pigfly:
     
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    Don't forget to fluff his pillow, turn down his bed and place the chocolate juussst right.

    If #8 isn't capable of fast tracking after 4 years in the NFL, especially after cashing over 20 million in checks, then maybe he isn't the right guy after all.

    I can hear it already.... "give him time, he's learning a new system."

    Remember what Big Daddy always said in "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof?"

    Where is that 'devil on my shoulder' smilie anyway?
     
  16. travfrancis

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    yeah it really is amazing how seemingly perfect vince fits the type of system we want to run, oh well the fate was decided i guess 4 years ago when carr was drafted #1.
     
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    I really wish Vince would have stayed in one more year......
     
  18. bkimble

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    Dude, Carr's own lineman hates him...many of his sacks were because he would run out of bounds a few yards shy of the line of scrimmage rather than throw the ball away, which of course counts as a sack, think about how much crap the Texans OL got from their buddy and think about how many of those sacks wouldn't have occurred if our great QB would have simply thrown the ball away. This guy is a joke.

    Think about this, when the game on the line, the OL has to believe in their QB, respect their QB, the Texans OL does neither.

    The word around the NFL is he will never, ever be successful (he doesn't even take his OL out to lunch, nor do they want him too). And dude has the rep for being lazy! Please draft VY...Good luck Texans.

    :yahoo:
     
  19. TexanSam

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    Please give me proof that says his own lineman don't like him. I'm pretty sure that would be public knowledge if it were true. It would be nice if you showed me where people around the NFL believe he's not going to succeed.
     
  20. bkimble

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    I am talking about players not GM's and coaches. Talk to some of the players and they'll tell you about anothers players rep.
     

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