Checking the Texans' mythology

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  1. Wolf

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    That's defined this franchise since the beginning. The only way that disappears is by protecting Schaub in a playoff game. Only the hardcore fans will look at the stats that tell a different story.

    You occasionally hear the "The Texans made a mistake by passing on Bush" crapola. But, only from the most clueless of the media.
     
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    Whoops, I mis-understoond the point of this thread.
     
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    The Offensive line being bad, namely the Carr Ages. This is from 10/2005 wherez I started coming around on the OL.

     
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    Myth: Picking Williams over Bush was a home run!

    The "experts" seem to have a rule about waiting three years to evaluate a draft class. This isn't a draft class, it's a one-on-one comparison. I say the jury is still out on this one.

    They say Williams is in the lead right now, most notably because of the 30 sacks v. 24 TDs. But that's only one statistic. If that were the only thing by which to judge them, I would take the 24 TDs. Even more so because 4 TDs were punt returns.

    Of course TDs and sacks are just a small part of their impact on games. There are too many variables to list, and since I'm not an expert I will defer to the popular opinion that Williams has done more than Bush. For the time being.

    16 TDs by Bush and 10 sacks by Williams this year might change popular opinion. And I don't even like U$C Bush."

    LOL!!! I guess being the best player on your team at the position you were drafted isn't also a requirement. Just tds vs sacks without taking into account the supporting staff.
     
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    What about the "Texans ruined David Carr" myth?

    Peyton Manning, Warren Moon, Troy Aikman, Eli Manning all got sacked a bunch as rookies. I think Moon held the record until HWSNBN broke it. But they worked their butts off to get better at their craft. NWSNBN... not so much.

    And there's the myth that HWSNBN never had any weapons. Well, Domanick D-W turned out to be a pretty darn good back. And there's this guy name Andre Johnson that Carr had to throw to. Actually, Jabar Gaffney turned out to be a halfway decent WR when he got with a QB that could get the ball to him in N.E. Then there's the fact that HWSNBN couldn't get the ball to Steve Smith when he changed teams. But still, its all about what WE did to him...

    that myth still chaps my hide
     
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    I'm a bit torn on that one actually. I agree that he didn't seem to be a hard worker. But I also think that it's very possible that he could have been better if he was brought up on a different team. I don't know where the truth ends and the myth begins when it comes to that topic.
     
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    I like this one

    The Texans have alot of talent on the DL because of the high draft picks that have been spent.

    Our 2 previous DL coaches would like to disagree with this myth.
     


  9. Ckw

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    How about Reggie Bush was drafted #2 to be a game changer at Running Back?!? Sure those punt returns are an added bonus but he was drafted that high to be a RB. And this RB has not even averaged 4 yards a carry or more than 6 tds at RB his entire career. On the other hand, Mario has been a game changer at DE. In fact, he has been one of the best DEs in the NFL. Bush isn't even a top 20 RB.
     
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    Myth: Now that we're past the Carr era, we're set at QB, except for just the concern of his "health" factor.
     
  11. Polo

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    The biggest Texans myth is that Travis Johnson isn't any good.
     
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    smh
     
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    I don't know what the exact definition of "set" is. I would assume it's Peyton or Brady right? That's the standard response. But it isn't much of a stretch to look at Schaub's growth over the past 2 years and especially down the stretch last year and feel VERY good about his ability to get the job done assuming he stays healthy. I don't know what you want to see from him other than continuing his improvement from last year and staying healthy. He's well on his way. He's statisically a top 10 QB and he's won 6 of his last 8 starts. In one of those two losses he was injured and left the game in the first half(Minn). Help me to understand what he needs to do better to suggest that he's not a solid pick as the starting quarterback. Compared to 31 other teams we're as "set" as at least 15 other teams. I would argue we're better off than at least 26 other teams. I think there is plenty of factual information to back up this "myth".

    Rep-ilicious!
     
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    How about durability? How many games has Bush misses? How many games has Williams missed?
     
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    How has that myth been busted?
     

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