Charles Rogers vs Andre Johnson

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  1. DetroitLions

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    Not coming here to troll, but just a friendly debate, and get some insight form Andres fans.. Who do you think is better and why...? :)
     
  2. TexanExile

    TexanExile A New Hope

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    Welcome to the board...short answer from me on this is that Rogers got hurt and hasn't had a chance to truly shine yet. AJ already has proven his ability over the course of a full season. We'll get a good chance to see more in week 2, eh?

    Rogers has made some nice highlight-reel grabs in preseason.
     
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    It is hard to tell because Rogers was hurt most of last year, but I always thought that AJ would have been a better pick by the Lions then Rogers. I still feel that the Lions drafted Rogers because of the Michigan ties and I also feel that Roy Williams will be better then Rogers...

    But AJ is tough. A heck of a run blocker, very aggressive, always wanting to get better, never quits on a play, and has the best combination of size and speed out of him a Rogers...

    JMHO....
     
  4. HoustonLionsFan

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    As a Lions fan that is new to Houston, I will answer you. Rogers injury last year prohibits a comparison at this time. But, IMO, it is difficult to compare them anyway. AJ is a bigger, more physical WR, while CR is a faster, downfield kind of WR. R Williams is a closer comparison to the AJ type of WR.
     
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    Too early to tell. Neither has moved ahead in the pack yet. Andre' is the man for sure and will get more touches I think.
     
  6. DetroitLions

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    i Agree, i am looking forward to week 2... Andre had a solid rookie season, but i havent seen alot of him... I really want to see how they both do this season..
     
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    Yeah, but AJ and Rogers will always be compared because Rogers was #2 and AJ #3 in their draft...

    And I really dont think that there is that big of a difference in their speed. Both of them ran track and I believe both won a bunch of races. And the 40 times werent that far off.

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    They both ran 4.43 40s
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2003/draft/players/1211.html
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2003/draft/players/3260.html
     
  8. DetroitLions

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    the only thing that makes me think Rogers is better then Andre is because Rogers had 1 less TD in about 1/3 of the games.. Andre seem to be promising though...
     
  9. DetroitLions

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    :D it is going to be good... There is going to be 2 sub-matchups in this game. Carr the #1 vs Harrington the #3, and Rogers the #2 vs Johnson the #3... i cant wait... I dont know if you all heard Mort, from ESPN, but he said he would take Carr over Joey, and he thinks Carr is the real deal... just something i thought u would like to know...
     
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    I wouldnt put too much weight on TDs...


    I believe it is alright to compare the first 5 games:
    AJ averaged 5.6 catches for 79 yards a game with a 14.1 yards per catch average and had 2 TDs

    CR averaged 4.4 catches for 48.6 yards per game with a 11 yard per catch average and had 3 TDs
     
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    Whats going on with Roy up there? I watched about 1/3 of your game against the Browns...and I saw Roy drop at least three dead-on passes.
     
  12. DetroitLions

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    Well, he droped 1 very good ball, gator-armed, a highthrown ball but catchable ball, and the other one was a bad pass, and IMO wasnt very catchable... He did much better VS the Ravens though... 3 catches for 40 yards, and a bunch of YAC, and shook off Ray Lewis for his first reception...
     
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    Rookie Nerves?

    I saw 2 dropped, and one at his knees. 1 he was double covered and almost made a spectacular 1 handed grab (but he could have got both hands on it), the other was thrown slightly behind him. Regardless, he should have had both. Last week he had 3 grabs for 40 yds against a stingy Bal D. 1 catch I saw him put his head down, plow into a safety and carry 3 defenders for an extra 5 yds. He'll have his ups and downs, but towards the end of the season he start lighting it up.
     
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    Andre cause hes had more games to develope so far. I havn't had the chance to watch Charles to much cause I dont get the game or hes been hurt. I just think Andre has developed more and is becoming a very noticible reciever in the league.
     
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    Dont forget D-Rob (#10) against Roy Williams (#7)

    It is going to be a great game....
     
  16. DetroitLions

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    You Houston fans are classy... easy to talk to.. unlike the garbage packer and bears fans... you might as well be talking to a cage full fo monkeys... thanks for the insight, GL to the Texans, and may the best team win on week 2...

    P.S. I really think the Texans have the top 3 best looking jerseys in the league.. :thumbup
     
  17. DetroitLions

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    Speaking of D-rob, is he the #2, nickel back, or the dime back? Roy is the #2 WR, so i hope Dunta is the #2... alot of good matchups in this game..
     
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    Robinson plays RCB in the standard 3-4. He shifts inside to NB in nickel packages.
     
  19. DetroitLions

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    so i expect he will be lined up with Roy at least a few times then... :headbang:
     
  20. I'd have to say that Rogers will probably get more TD's this year if he stays healthy. The Lions seem to air it out more West Coast style than our ball controlling offense. Harrington threw almost double the amount of TD's (in addition to more INT's) so it's natural that the recievers are going to have better stats. But can you guage a WR on yards and TD's alone? No, but that is what he is payed to do, produce. Rogers in my opinion will have the better year stat wise because he is in an offense that can make him look good. (see T. Owens, J. Rice)
     

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