I'm assuming the original thread was closed because some of the branches it spawned was getting out of hand.... I feel the discussion I was having with a couple of participants.... gpshafer, & Texan279 & even infantrycak was still civil, and unresolved.... & I believe they have mistaken what I was saying, & I'd like to clarify..... You got me twisted..... I've never said that David has had enough time, or that David can't be a starter in the NFL. as a matter of fact, my first post in that thread: So...... I'm not saying that Sage should replace Carr in our next preseason game, and I'm not saying that Sage should start over Carr in the regular season.