Capers up at Wisconsin today...

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  1. texansfan88

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    Probably looking at Erasmus James (DE), Anttaj Hawthorne (DT), Jonathon Clinkscale (OG), and Dan Buenning (OG)
     
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    I like Antajj, I dont think that James really fits our defense. Hawthorne would add quality depth until he became good enough to start.
     
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    Hawthorne can play NT
     
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    AH was online today but signed off b4 i could type anything to see if capers was checking him out...i'll shoot him an email and see if he responds
     
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    Yeah, but if we draft him do you think he will come in and get the starting position. I think it might take at least until mid season for him to learn the 3-4 well enough to take the starting spot from Payne. :hmmm:
     
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    since we re-signed payne and he is expected to contribute for a few more years, i would think the drafting of hawthorne would be to groom him as a possible replacement for payne :thumbup
     
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    I agree with jrock. If the Texans draft Hawthorne (or any other NT) Payne will still be the starter for the next year or two. It takes guys a while to adjust to playing NT in the NFL, even if they are drafted in the first round. Even though he wouldn't start, a rookie NT will get plenty of playing time rotating with Payne to keep both of them fresh.
     
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    I think Hawthorne could possibly be a DE for us. and could replace Walker as the starter if he still hasnt fully recovered from his injuries.
     


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    agreed as well. i just looked up some stats and, at 6'3 - 305lbs, mr hawthorne would be more suited (sizewise) as an end in our 3-4. whoever we draft as a first day DL, i expect to give the front three regular breaks next season. it'll be their trial by fire and hopefully extend payne/walker's career's as productive texans! so much upside is making me dizzy... :shocked :woot :thumbup
     
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    Gotta remember, there's really not that much difference between the profile
    of a guy playing NT vs. DE in the 3-4 as compared to the > differences between DE & DT in the 4-3. In the 3-4, both positions are basically tackle types.
     
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    hmm well when payne goes down this year again, which i know he will than we'll have somebody to replace him :)
     
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    Hawthorne weighed in at 317 lbs at the Senior Bowl, 321 lbs at the combine. He's big enough to play anywhere along the 34 line.
     
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    Jonathan Welsh (wisconsin DE) ran a 4.5 at the combine. Could he be looking at another 3-4 LB?
     
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    Youngstown, you may be right! I've been doing some research on these fellows @ Wisconsin and Jonathan Welch jumped out at me like TORO the bull. Right now I'm going on record (Vinny keeps track of these damn things) its a toss up who do the Texans select in the 4th rd, Jonathan Welch or Jonathan Goddard? one things for sure his first name will be Jonathan :heh:

    When (Erasmus) James was scratched from the lineup in '03 Jonathan Welsh filled in nicely at defensive end for the Badgers, recording eight sacks and 11 tackles for loss.

    At 6-foot-3 and 244 pounds, Welsh projects as outside linebacker at the NFL level. He impressed at the combine with a 40-yard dash time of 4.58 seconds.

    Welsh played right defensive end for Wisconsin's top-ranked scoring defense last fall.

    Welsh and defensive tackle Jason Jefferson, another UW draft prospect, were All-Big Ten honorable mention picks.
     
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    It was well documented that Wisconsin had a very good D-line last year. But I've always wondered if Jason Jefferson was overshadowed by guys like Hawthorne. He has a NFL type body (6'5" 310)

    If he doesn't go on the first day, someone will be getting a very good day 2 pickup.
     
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    Hmm where is AH slated to be drafted this year?
     
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    :hmmm: I think Welsh could be a good 4th round pick-up if Anthony Bryant is off the board...
     
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    Late 1st, early 2nd at the latest...He may be a trade up/down candidate...
     
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    If Hawthorne impresses Capers big time, could we be trading down from and drafting mucho lineman in later rounds this year?
     

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