Discussion in 'The National Football League' started by Hookem Horns, Oct 27, 2009.
all hysterical Young bashing aside, he definitely needs to start. there's no point in Collins playing.
It will probably happen sometime soon, but seriously how bad does Young have to present in practice/study that Fisher is this resolute on not playing him? Fisher if not on the ledge of getting fired is walking toward it and this is one of the most visible issues. He has to be pretty darn determined about Young to do this.
Agreed. This can't just be Fisher being stubborn. There has to be something that Young is/isn't doing that makes him so sure he shouldn't start.
On the flip side, this season is over for them. They need to get Vince out there and see what he can do so they can decide if he is their future or not. The longer they wait the less sure they will be by the time the draft comes around.
Apparently, the only one unsure is Bud. Bud should have pushed for outing sausage boy last year, and had a real QB that could step in effectively at the beginning of THIS year when the Tacks were showing signs of flaming beyond just their helmets. Bud screwed Houston. Now he's found more creative ways to further his legacy in Tennessee.
hmmmm...good ol' Bud...Nashville never really got to experience young Bud...no, not like we lived with for so many years. This story brings us back to those days of yesteryear...
It's obvious that Darth Budious wants his young apprentice to undermine Fisher's Jedi council.
So, did Fisher wear the Manning jersey after Bud told him to play VY?
No reason not to play Vince.
I'm not complaining. The worse it gets up there the happier I will be.
Personally, I'm hoping Fisher holds out as long as possible. He's going to be fired anyway, but if the Tacks see what they have in VY for sure this season, then they may bring in another QB. If they go into next season not quite sure what they have, then they're more likely to ruin next season finding out.
Well, no reason except that he sucks, of course.
Maybe, but only after Lanier screwed him.
Lanier offered Bud a new stadium. How did he screw him again?
ONE MAN made the decision. ONE MAN.
Here is an interesting article about what was going down circa 1994. It exposes Bud for what he is, and it also shows Les and Drayton to be not much different, IMO. They just held out longer than Bud.
Wanna Buy a RoboDome?
p.s. ONE MAN made the decision. Nobody ran anyone out of town. ONE MAN made the decision.
ONE MAN made the decision.
I wish people would read the article entitled: "NFL Oilers: A Case Study in Corporate Welfare."
I've posted it several times as well as Hervoyel.
Great article! Must spread the rep!
Ooh, I'd like to see that conversation with Young go down.
(umm.... yeah - not intended)
I wonder if Jeff Fisher will be able to keep a straight face while he informs Vince that he's now the starter of an 0-6 team and is expected to turn the team around. Way to hoist them on your shoulders Vince.
That's not my recollection at all ? Lanier made improvements at the old Astrodome (a stadium where the Oilers were only a tenant and shared the facility with the Astros), that included some suites and several thousand additional seats, but nothing like a new stadium built specifically for the
football teams. Adams had to go to Nashville to get that deal.
Of course Lanier turned around later and built his buddy Drayton McClain a new baseball stadium. That's the story I remember.
You just forgot two components (it's hell getting old ):
A) Bud was offered a stadium
B) He chose to go to Nashville anyway.
We're still paying on the dome after all these years . I watched Alabama at the rodeo during the renovation period and froze my butt off because of the open spaces due to construction . I was to cold to drink beer .
He also decided to make a play for his new stadium after going 2-14 . He threatened to go to Nashville in a routine that looked like the Jacksonville ploy . Nashville called his bluff and got Bud to agree to an exclusive negotiating period to where he agreed to 10 years of guaranteed sellouts . If he backed out not only would he look stupid , he had no leverage .
Read both articles posted by Bill and I. Your memory will be refreshed. The devil is in the details.
Besides, Bud could have out-waited a mayor, who is just an elected official. By that point, Bud had owned the team for over 3 decades. Count how many mayors had come and gone by that point (FYI: five plus Lanier).
You can spin it all you want and you are welcome to revisionist history, but NONE of that can change the simple fact that the decision to move the team came down to ONE MAN.
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