Bruce Matthews HOF

Discussion in 'The National Football League' started by Txn_in_FL, Oct 28, 2006.

  1. Txn_in_FL

    Txn_in_FL Lucky 13

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2004
    Messages:
    3,847
    Likes Received:
    382
    Location:
    Tampa, FL
    First vote, no problem.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2640842

    Matthews should be in there with no problems, same with Davis and Thomas and Irvin. Cunningham though? Never really payed attention to him but even with all the hype he never struck me as a HOFer.
     
  2. Double Barrel

    Double Barrel Modified Simian

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2004
    Messages:
    33,039
    Likes Received:
    2,889
    Location:
    Onward, Upward, and back into the Trees
    Does Davis have the numbers? I remember him being a great back, but I don't recall his career being all that long.

    Matthews is a no-brainer. Dude is the epitome of what an awesome offensive lineman should be about.
     
  3. Wolf

    Wolf 100% Texan

    Joined:
    May 1, 2004
    Messages:
    37,834
    Likes Received:
    1,686
    Location:
    Kerrville
    I don't know why but I am not really impressed with this class.

    Mathews Yes.. but like you DB, I wonder about if some players really have the numbers...

    besides Mathews I just want to :yawn: and not sure why... maybe because the other players played on teams that I didn't like so my hatred is still there.. don't know
     
  4. TexanSam

    TexanSam Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2005
    Messages:
    17,071
    Likes Received:
    713
    Matthews is a no-brainer too me. I don't think Terrell Davis did it long enough. He was great back, but he was only great for a couple of years. I think he's a borderline HOF. Eventually he might get in, but I don't think he'll get in this year. Irvin, as much as I dislike the guy as a broadcaster and his big mouth, was an amazing player. He should have been a first ballot HOF. I don't think Cunningham is a HOF. He was a very good QB, but when I saw him play I didn't think he was a HOF like I did John Elway, Troy Aikman, Steve Young, etc...
     
  5. Txn_in_FL

    Txn_in_FL Lucky 13

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2004
    Messages:
    3,847
    Likes Received:
    382
    Location:
    Tampa, FL
    I think the thing with Davis is that while he didn't have a long career he's credited with being that final piece in the Denver puzzle for their Super Bowl runs. I think his career will be measured by the impact he had on the team rather than it being cut short by something out of his control (wasn't it his kness that went bad?).
     
  6. threetoedpete

    threetoedpete Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 26, 2004
    Messages:
    6,644
    Likes Received:
    197
    Location:
    Katy, Texas
    Agreed. I believe Davis will get in eventually. I also believe there is a bottle neck with the list now. I'm looking at the list and just pairing down the o-lineman will be a chore. Mathews should get in and has the numbers. Gotta figure only seven will make it. Making the pro bowl at three different positions and making the all decade team has to give Bruce the edge to get in. But again, there's a bottle neck now. Warren & Squatty just went in...I wouldn't say it's a lock for first ballot. Will say he deserves it. Great list. Glad I don't have to choose.
     
  7. Hervoyel

    Hervoyel The Right Track

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2004
    Messages:
    15,471
    Likes Received:
    2,292
    I put Davis in the HOF if it's up to me. I tend to think he belongs in there right next to Elway who would not have two rings if not for the contributions of Terrell Davis. I make my case like this.

    Gayle Sayers is in the HOF.

    Terrell Davis played for 7 years just like Gayle Sayers.

    Terrell Davis ran for 7607 (4.6 avg) in his 7 seasons, Gayle Sayers ran for 4956 (5.0 avg) in the same time frame.

    Terrell Davis broke 2000 yards in a season and broke 1000 yards four times. Sayers most productive (14 game) year was 1231 yards. He only went over 1000 yards twice.

    Terrell Davis has 2 rings, Gayle Sayers didn't get one at all. That's not really a fair criteria but you have to admit that it's taken into account where getting into the HOF is concerned.

    In those two Super Bowls Terrell Davis produced. He broke a hundred yards in both games (30 carries for 157 yards in the first one followed by 25 carries for 102 yards in the second). In fact he played in 8 post season games from 1996 to 1998 and he only failed to go over 100 yards in one of them. That game he ran for 91 yards. Terrell Davis did not dissappear in big games. Davis showed up every time.

    I don't think there's any question that Terrell Davis belongs in the HOF but that's just my opinion.
     
  8. aj.

    aj. Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2004
    Messages:
    4,769
    Likes Received:
    347
    Comparing Sayers and TD straight up stats-wise is necessary but definitely not all telling, considering how different the game was in 1965 compared to 1995.

    Looking at stats, then Drew Bledsoe is a lock for the HOF, as are guys like Corey Dillon and Ricky Watters.... :rolleyes:

    In Sayers favor is the way he burst on the scene. His all around exceptional ability as a running back, kick returner, and reciever was something the NFL had never seen before. He really was a legend in his own time - a man among boys (along with Jim Brown) - who were individually dominating and without peer during that brief period in league history.

    TD was a really good and highly productive RB with eye popping numbers during that one season in particular (98?). Denver had a lot of talent on those teams ---Elway, TD, a couple of 1000 yard receivers.... their O was a well oiled machine.

    Sayers was a remarkable player on some mediocre at best Bears teams that were otherwise void of offensive talent. Butkus would probably agree.

    Too bad ACL repair and rehab weren't quite as good in 1969 as they are now. We may have seen more of Sayers than we did.

    If it takes a lot of debate, then the player may not be worthy. Injury shortened careers always adds to the riddle.

    TD is definitely worthy of being in the discussion, but he's not a lead pipe lock.

    I think Matthews and Tagliabue are no-brainers.

    As is the case for every HOF candidate. Someone on the committee will have to take up the cause of the borderline guys and present their case and argument.
     
  9. mike moffat

    mike moffat Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2004
    Messages:
    3,121
    Likes Received:
    261
    Location:
    Redding, Ca.
    Bruce Matthews is a definate first pick. What a great player he was. I really enjoyed watching him. The other name that will probably make it is Thurman Thomas. I thought that he was pretty darned good.
     
  10. OzzO

    OzzO .. and then?

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2004
    Messages:
    7,182
    Likes Received:
    296
    Location:
    northside
    He's one of the 17 finalists.

    chronic 2/3/07
     
  11. Scooter

    Scooter Funky

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2004
    Messages:
    5,325
    Likes Received:
    547
    mathews should be one of the easiest first ballots ever. he'll stand forever as arguably the best offensive lineman in NFL history. Tags will probably also make it because of how big the NFL's become during his time.

    i cant give it to terrell davis. i know he got 2 rings, but he only played 4 seasons. while they were good, that's not enough of a sample to put him in the same breathe with guys like jim brown and walter payton. TD came onto a built team with arguably the best run blocking ... he was just the final piece to an already championship caliber team. IF he gets in, it'll be because of his postseason performance.

    edit: well, guess i missed the induction threads ... was right about mathews in & TD out, wrong on tags.
     
  12. axman40

    axman40 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2004
    Messages:
    21,649
    Likes Received:
    532
    Location:
    Austin
  13. Charter PSL Fan

    Charter PSL Fan Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2006
    Messages:
    85
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    On the Outskirts of Town
    Congratulations to Matthews the greatest OL man ever. Irvin the crackhead was the best push off artist ever.
     
  14. tsip

    tsip Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 19, 2005
    Messages:
    1,277
    Likes Received:
    40
    Davis will be interesting. He played 7 yrs--7607yds/65 tds. Earl Campbell had 1 yr longer w/9407yds and 74 tds. Without a doubt, Campbell was helped by the fact 'everyone loved him' including the sports writers, and he gave everything he had on every play--absolute team player. Remember, he was one of the first RB's to 'treat' his OL to meals/gifts to thank them--very humble player.

    The interesting RB picked on the first ballot was Gale Sayers, who only played 5 full NFL seasons--only gained 90 total yds his 6th/7th years. His #'s for his first 5 yrs were 4956 yds/39 tds.
     
  15. whiskeyrbl

    whiskeyrbl Guest

    yeah Congrats to Matthews.
     
  16. TwinSisters

    TwinSisters Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2006
    Messages:
    1,470
    Likes Received:
    40
    Location:
    In my mind.
    :bubble:

    BRUUUUUUUCE! Hope this means I get one last summer of seeing the Columbia fly again!
     
  17. Trap_Star

    Trap_Star SiteContributor

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2005
    Messages:
    4,804
    Likes Received:
    341
    Location:
    xvideo
    congrats to Bruce, the NFLs only true IRONMAN...
     

Share This Page