Brian Gaine Thread

Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by Mangler, Jan 17, 2018.

  1. CloakNNNdagger

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    What this Texans football GM thread has devolved into is ridiculous. Surprised the Dynamo hasn't been dragged into this discussion..........or the Dash.
    Why don't we just throw in the upload_2019-5-15_13-46-16.jpeg
     
  2. Texansballer74

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    He basically did because at first he didn't want to come to Houston. The deal got done at the very last minute.
     
  3. Mr teX

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    Ryan Pressly trade was under the radar for two low-level prospects.

    Cole trade also involved none of our top prospects.

    Diaz trade occurred because he was significantly cheaper than re-signing Marwin.

    Chirinos was acquired because Astros saved a lot of money by declining Mcann’s option.

    Miley was also acquired as a cheaper alternative to Keuchel.

    Michael Brantley was their biggest offseason acquisition, and that was only at $15 mil/season.

    Astros are where they are by making the smart moves, not simply being aggressive. Even the Verlander deal wouldn’t have happened if Detroit didn’t agree to pay for a lot of his salary.

    There were “better” options this offseason. There was Patrick Corbin, Bryce Harper, Manny Machado, or even Dallas Keuchel. Astros were smart, they didn’t throw stupid money at those guys. They got cheaper (but smarter) alternatives. They also got a lot of these guys on one year deals. Sound familiar?
     
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    Lol, don’t let a few facts get in the way of bashing the Texans FO. Under Lunhow the Astros were the worst team in baseball for a few years while they (finger italics) “built through the draft” to restock a depleted roster and farm system left by the past GM(s). Sound familiar? He got bashed for years with that plan but some of us saw and agreed with his model. When they were poised to make a run THEN they started getting aggressive to find the guys to get them over the top. BG’s clearly stated goal is to constantly improve the roster year round. Wish other posters in this town would take notice because I believe we are following his lead.
     
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    Ed Reid, Brock O.
    Among others.
     
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    Brock Osweler was a 3 swing miss. Strike 1 when he was signed to a crazy contract. Strike 2 when he actually QB'ed. Strike 3 when the team traded and got horribly screwed in the process.
     
  8. beerlover

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    Problem with this draft is two-fold. The players drafted with exception of Scharping, are all projects. Two no successful attempt was made to add future or additional picks. So even if half these guys hit and make the 53 your going to be fighting against 31 teams for positioning again next draft without benefit of extra ammo. Like Chis Ballard says, “I don’t care how good your team is, every year you have to continue to fuel talent in. The only way you are going to do that is with the number of picks you have.”
     
  9. steelbtexan

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    How about Price to the Blue Jays

    Chapman to the Cubs

    Darvish to the Dodgers, Gray to the Yankees
     
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  10. steelbtexan

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    Once in 17 yrs.

    LMAO
     


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    You want more misses? Point is they swung.
     
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    More like accidentally tripped over their d!cks.

    So lets stop trying.

    F'n Great

    This fanbase has been properly conditioned.
     
  14. Dejaview

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    No, but it is diverse with different opinions. Yours always seem to come with, shall I say, a control element.
     
  15. steelbtexan

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    Control element. LMAO The McNair's set the agenda for how they want their franchise to be run. For years people said they were young owners and would learn how to build a contender. At some point you have to ask yourself if building a contender is important to them, since they are making money hand over fist.

    You didn't answer my question about quitting trying.
     
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    In no way was I critiquing what you stated but merely adding that the Osweiler debacle was one instance. There are enough misses from the draft, free agency and the re-signing of Texans to fully explain why this franchise has firmly remained in their rut of mediocracy. I hope the 2018 and 2019 NFL Draft and FA period finally give the Texans some traction to crawl out of this 17 year rut.
     
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    Interested to see how this will work out. Texans were blocked on interviewing Eagles Joe Douglas for their GM vacancy. Now, he appears to be the favorite for the Jets.

    9:14 AM - 15 May 2019
     
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    Not having a first and second last draft hurt us as well.
    Two saving graces came despite losing those picks though - we got DW4 and JReid.
     
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    The mistake you're making is acting like your method is the only way of building a contender & that luck isn't a big part of that which is bad logic. The team that's been dominating the NFL the last 20 years was built almost ENTIRELY by luck. Go ask Pats fans who were around back then what they thought about their new owner when he hired a HC that had 36-44 record & 0 track record of winning anything. Obviously you're familiar with the sheer luck of landing arguably the greatest qb of all time in the 6th round.........and the series of events that got him into the starting gig.
     
  20. steelbtexan

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    Yes it takes luck. Luck as in getting Brady in the 6th Rd type luck. Hiring BB wasn't luck, just somebody doing g a a great job of knowing who would be a great hire

    The way I would like to see the Texans run isn't the only way to run a franchise, but it's the way every successful franchise is run. Excluding the Pats, who are the anomaly and even the Pats are more aggressive than the Texans.
     
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