Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by Mangler, Jan 17, 2018.
I actually get a team already being really bad and there is a so-called generational talent.
Well, how much difference is there between a 1 win team and a 3 win team? More years of capers and casserly terrified me.
Just for a moment, I want to step away from the nuts and bolts of draft boards, trade values, and mock drafts. I need to take my optimism out of hiding. Brian Gaine? Yes, I'm very much looking forward to what he's going to pull off, beginning now. I have a gut feeling that he'll do a significantly better job than we've ever seen around here with building the team through the draft and UDFA acquisitions. When I think about the UDFA's, Arian Foster comes to mind and I'm like a kid ready to unwrap presents under the tree. Yes, I'm optimistic and almost giddy. Events may prove me wrong, wrong, wrong, but for now I'm going to enjoy some good, old fashioned optimism. Brian Gaine, you go, Buddy!
I think Dillard is the premium pass blocking LT in the draft and I hope he's there at 23 for the Texans. His run blocking needs to improve but the team could scheme to help him in that regard. His biggest job in Houston....keep Watson upright so the receiving group can make defenses pay.
More in reference to this with that statement......did you see a 11 win team playing the Colts? What I saw was a 5 win team at best who just happened to have 11 wins when they played the Colts. The Texans resembled a 5 win team versus the team that really got some lucky bounces to wind up with 11 wins. Big disappointment.
I hope Gaine has another solid draft and the team can get some solid contributions from at least 3 of their picks early on, which should indicate that the OL has gotten better......just a hope.
I do get what you are saying but I don't agree with it fully. Yes the Colts game sucked, yes they were made to look like a high school team, yes there needs to be improvements and yes BoB showed his ceiling as an OC and it was pretty low, but why do we always point to one game and say "See, that's the real Texans right there. None of the other games matter that's the game that shows who they really are."
I mean if we are going to do that then we need to be looking for a new QB really fast because Watson sucked in that game. He wasn't the only one by any means but if that is the game we are judging the team on then we have to judge all parts of the team on it. By the way the defense wasn't looking very good either so I guess Watt, Clowney and RAC all need to go as well.
I mean in reality if the 11 wins meant nothing because they lost to the Colts then the making to the SB meant nothing to the Rams because they lost to the Pats. In fact no team's season meant anything except the Pats.
To be fair this is what the Astros did and it worked out well for for them
Most years I agree with you. But last season when did we look like an 11-5 team? Most of the time it seemed like there was a flock of pixies cropdusting the Texans.
They looked about like every other Texans team. Not a true contender.
Yada, yada. You said that about the 2011 Texans too and they were exerting their will until Schaub went down. Huge difference.
Greatest failing of Kubiak/RS, not having someone better to step in.
I actually agree with TK to an extent here... OB could have been auditioning Sean Ryan to see if he was ready to be OC knowing that a change had to be made and realizing they really had no shot at the SB. OB as HC should have reviewed game plan and nixed it beforehand, but if defense wouldn't have given up the quick 21 maybe it would have worked. Getting down like they did, he changed it up realizing Ryan had no clue... just speculation on my part but it fits imo
Yep, with hindsight it's easy to see they should have taken Wilson instead of Posey, wouldn't he have looked great in Kubiak's offense
Kubiak did his best job that year. I still thought they were paper tigers.
Really the former GM failed Kubiak there
2011 they were not paper tigers... 2012 yes. If Schaub wouldn't have been injured they are easily in at least the AFCCG, perhaps the SB. They were loaded
That paper tiger had lost to 2 division winners away and was on pace for 4000 yds passing at 8.5 ypa and 2500 yds rushing at 4.5 ypc with 2 1000 yd rushers & the 4th pts/2nd yards D. Hand me the paper mache.
Damn Cak.....absolutely loved the, "flock of pixies cropdusting the Texans"!!!! New headline for 2018 season:
Texans 11-5 Season Up In Dust When Pixies Miss Cropdusting Effort In Playoff Game
At the beginning of the streak when we had Watson/Hopkins/Fuller/Coutee all on the field that was a scary offense that looked like it could light up any defense.
Trouble was when one piece of that group was removed there was no one that could step in to take their place. After that I agree we were on borrowed time.
We will never know. Schaub wasn't exactly known for shining his brightest in big games.
What we do know is the Texans org has never even sniffed an AFCCG
Give me these stats,
Points scored and number of AFCCG reached.
Wilson is a great example of a guy falling and a GM doing a great job.
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