Brian Gaine Thread

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  1. powda

    powda Daycare at Demmin '45

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    No.

    OB took on the oc position play calling and for 6 weeks looked brilliant. The rest of the year he looked incompetent and he single handedly lost 2 games.

    Now He's getting his gm of choice. I think ownership might overlook a dip in the defense but won't ignore a lack of offense. He's gotta get 10-6 or better.

    The texans put their chips in with ob. If he doesn't succeed He's out. No reason to believe Gaines has a horse in keeping ob if we're average again.
     
  2. xtruroyaltyx

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    This team needs to be back in the playoffs next year either as a wild card or division winners.

    If they have injuries at key positions again, then ok. But I’m going with the assumption that there arent an abnormal amount of key injuries again.

    If Watson stays healthy and continues to play well and the team around him is relatively healthy this team needs to be challenging the Jags and surpass the Titans next season.

    With a good free agency period and a good draft (even without a first or second) this should be feasible.

    The Browns or Jets or should be looking at 2-3 years Not the Texans.
     
  3. beerlover

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    Brian Gaines is this you?
     
  4. steelbtexan

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    So you think they are going to be able to fill atleast 6 holes that badly need filling this offseason (2-3 OL, CB, S, TE and fixing the ST's) without a 1st/2nd rd pick?

    High expectations indeed for Gaine in his rookie yr as GM. Good to see you have more faith in Gaine than I do.
     
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    Depends on if they can get the OL fixed this offseason without 1st/2nd rd picks to keep Watson healthy. There's still a big question mark in my mind if Watson can stay healthy. A bad OL and no draft picks to fix the issues doesn't comfort me when it comes to Watson's longterm health. This is the same reason I wanted Savage to play last season instead of Watson. (Lack of talent/crappy OL play)
     
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    I’m not saying what I think will happen. I’m just saying what I think a good management team/coaching staff would do.

    Regarding filling of holes, every team has holes. Even the super bowl winners. Everyone goes into the off season wanting to patch up areas of weakness.

    The thing is, the Texans have enough talent (if healthy) in other areas to where they should be able to cover some weaknesses.

    Coaching should also factor into the equation as well.

    So yeah, hit free agency hard and I’m of the belief that they need to move into the 1st or 2nd this year to grab a rookie with increased odds to come in and start somewhere.

    I just don’t look at the makeup of this team and see a 2 to 3 year rebuild.
     
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    I agree with you that it will take 2-3 years at least (if they make the right moves and there is no bad luck).

    I don't agree that Rick created this mess on his own, or that he went rogue on a bunch of decisions. OB and Gaine have been here making many of the decisions. (I also think it's interesting the defense is in much better shape with multiple good players vs just 3 on offense).

    So a new GM ideally should get time, but this isn't a new GM really.

    Unless they told McNair something different, that they have a 2-3 year plan to make this team a contender to clean up the mess that resulted from misalignment, then you give them time.

    Although we'll never know that, and I suspect they told him the team is close to contending.
     
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  8. TripleTap

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    A minute ago we were in year 3 of the mend and repair and now all of the sudden we're back to year 0 with a 5 year contract set?

    Good work if you can get it.
     
  9. steelbtexan

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    Good thing is we will know pretty quickly who was calling the shots by this FA/Draft period by the types of players that are added to the team.

    Hopefully they were honest with the McNair's, I would suspect they told McNair if Watson stays healthy that the Texans were a playoff team.
     
  10. steelbtexan

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    I agree with you, especially about trading up. They gotta get a LT. Right now I'm watching the East-West game and I'm pretty sure Crabtree can be a starting RT in the NFL next yr. (Certainly a huge upgrade over Breno) If Gaine could trade up and get a LT and add a OG in FA the OL would look alot better.

    They can fix the secondary in FA and the ST's late in the draft. So I agree if Watson can stay healthy they can be a playoff team next yr. But the team would still be very shallow depthwise and will need to be very lucky health wise to be a playoff team. This is why I think this is a 2-3 yr project.
     
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  11. IDEXAN

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    But remember Steelb as a Gaine booster you have faith in "your guy".
     
  12. steelbtexan

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    How many times do I have to tell you although I like the Gaine hire, Cesario is the guy I would've hired. Therefore Gaine wouldn't have been MY hire.
     
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    He was your #2 choice right, don't try to wiesel out of this.
     
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    No wiesling here.

    He wouldn't have been my choice.

    The reason I wanted Cesario is he would've been a fresh set of eyes and I think you would agree is badly needed in the Texans org.

    Gaine is sorta like the girl you settle for taking to the prom after the 1st girl you asked turned you down. You still have fun but you still would've rather gone with the 1st girl. Sometimes settling with girl #2 works out though. So there is hope.
     
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    So he was your second choice, you don't deny that do you ?
     
  16. leebigeztx

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    We can talk about the holes just like they did with the Colts, but when you have that qb, he can hide alot. Watson was putting up 30 ppg, when you can score like that, you need to keep it at 20 defensively. That's what the pats do regardless of the pass rush. They do need to fill holes, but they should be in position to win this division.
     
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    If you can read you will know the answer to this question.

    I just cant figure out why you're being the way you're being?
     
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  18. ArlingtonTexan

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    The entire hire seems like more like promoting a long-term employee (forget the 8 months in Buffalo) to keep the organization to same. My guesstimation is that the McNairs don't think anything is wrong with the general set-up of the organization and staying the status quo (more or less) is favorable. If you are thinking in that manner versus ushering a new exciting era of Texans football, a delayed press conference with as little pomp as possible would be in order.
     
  19. steelbtexan

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    Those holes contributed to Watson getting hurt.
     
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  20. OptimisticTexan

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    Yes, every team has holes but those holes are only as glaring as the talent of the core players who surround them. The Texans, from a core player perspective, just don't have enough to cover the holes. This is what will determine the time frame to turn this back around.

    Offense Core:
    Watson, Hopkins, Fuller, Foreman, Miller, Martin and Mancz.

    Problem:
    Not enough core players on the OL and none at TE to sustain momentum for the long haul.

    Defense Core:
    Entire unit except; Cushing and Safeties. I'm including KJo. He had a bad year coming off injuries, it happens. A full off-season to recuperate and a healthy front seven will help him rebound.

    Problem:
    Health!!! If this unit of core players stay healthy and productive for a full season, the DB's will enjoy a full rebound and the Texans defense will ascend to one of the Top 5 NFL Defensive units once again.

    Special Teams:
    No Core at the moment. The team needs Fairbarn to have a better season so he can be established as a core player on ST's. Damn, I forgot Weeks...he's been a consistent core player as long snapper.
     
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