Brian Gaine Thread

Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by Mangler, Jan 17, 2018.

  1. leebigeztx

    leebigeztx Keep it Movin!

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    It's always the combo of both or your team gets top heavy. The problem with this team is player development on the oline. This coaching staff haven't been good with that group. So, they probably need sign Juwan James or Donavan Smith at RT and move Rankins in at guard. Also, they need another high quality wr. Much like AJ, Hopkins has the Texans spoiled. Hopkins haven't missed games, but Fuller can stay on the field. As much as I like DT, that injury and his age probably means he's done. Who will Watson throw to if Hopkins misses games?
     
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  2. steelbtexan

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    So let me get this straight, if Brady bails out BB that's them working well together

    If Watson bails out BOB , he's Jesus in cleats


    Yes, the offense did better than I expected with the backup ol
     
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    Nice way to frame your argument.

    Too bad it doesn't take everything into account
     
  4. xtruroyaltyx

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    I think the difference is that the pats have a proven track record with those two. We’ve seen those two together have multiple years of successful offense. We’ve even seen BB have success without TB.

    Every team wants star players that can make plays outside of what the coaches scheme, however that shouldn’t account for too large a percentage of the team’s/units success. That’s just playing with Fire.

    I’m not going to act like I’m an expert level NFL offensive mind, but I know a little bit. I’m still trying to figure out what it is scheme wise or playcalling wise OB does to make things easier on the offense?
     
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  5. steelbtexan

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    TB wasn't TB as a rookie.

    Let's finally fix the ol and then make a determination
     
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    Ok I have to point out changing the variables around until you get the results you want is not objectively looking at it. When you start doing that then the other side can do the same to support their argument. For example take out all the teams that aren't starting a QB with less than two full seasons. Awesome, now we are ranked either 2 or 3, see how you can frame the facts to fit any argument you want when you don't consider everything as a whole.
     
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  7. 76Texan

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    It was steelb that brought up the injuries, not I.
     
  8. Rich Schmidt

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    Still, stats can be used to prove anything, IF you let me put some ifs in. With some research I could find the Texans were #1 in offensive something with some ifs. In general, trust the overall stats, offense is not good enough. Defense is not good enough against elite QBs.
     
  9. leebigeztx

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    Nothing that I see. He has a space runner in Miller, yet the Texans led the nfl in 1st and 2nd down up the middle runs. How is that predictable offense helping. If anyone care to chart the game vs just watching, their personnel gives all their clues in run vs pass. The Texans were like 97% strong side run in 3 tes. If I know this sitting at home eating fajitas, what about the dc getting 2m? How many rb screens did we see this year? What about the action to distract the defense? Look at what the rams do with the compressed formations and how their right there ready to go.
     
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    Give the Texans the Rams talent and We can talk.
     


  11. steelbtexan

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    Give the Texans the Rams talent and We can talk.
     
  12. leebigeztx

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    What does the Rams personel got to do with deception,formation, and sets?
     
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    Some folk think talent alone trumps installing an effective scheme and good play-calling.

    Which is weird because the HC they admire the most has made himself a legend by taking guys no one has heard of and making them stars because of his coaching, scheme, and play-calling.
     
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    Pretty much. OBrien seems to me to be a coach who needs everything. I dont think he's the kind of coach who can outcoached or out scheme a coach with better talent. Even if its marginally better. I'm not saying the Cardinals of this year winning 10 games. He coaches and thinks complimentary football vs maximizing talent/winning football. Between the Jets, Broncos, Redskins, Browns, Bill's, and 1st Colts game, those could've been losses. Hr coaches to keep the game close. The Bears and Matt Nagy with Trubisky scored as many points as the Texans. Let that sink in.
     
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    If you can't see the difference in talent I can't discuss this with you
     
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    He didn't a very good job maximizing the talent. The Ol sucked and look at the skill position talent vs the Bears skill position talent. Then look at the difference in talent of the Bears OL vs the Texans OL.
     
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    How many times did he move the pocket? What about screens and misdirection? How much of that did you see? What about passing early to get ahead of the chains? They led the league in 1st down up the gut runs.
     
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    You have to understand they are too busy defending to the point of being blinded by the obvious.
     
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  20. steelbtexan

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    You have to have a much better OL than the Texans did to run slow developing plays. The 1st down runs were maddening to me also, but that was part of the run the ball, shorten the game and let the defense win the game for you.
     
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