Brett Smith, QB - Wyoming

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  1. Playoffs

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    Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock
    [IMGwidthsize=300]http://standingosports.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Brett-Smith.jpg[/IMG]

     
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    That's quite an interesting take. You would think if he's that good he would have been allowed to attend the combine and not be a snub, even if he is an underclassman.
     
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    Brett Smith of Wyoming is the best QB in this Draft ? Who's to say that's not the case because it's so difficult to assess a college QBs chances of making it in the NFL as so many mistakes have been made by people who supposedly are "experts". Who knows, maybe this guy is the Texans "franchise QB" ?
     
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    I was actually going to start a thread about Smith last night. It got to late and had my grandson to take care of. I've watched a few of his games and he's kinda a poor mans Manziel.
     
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    Who is Jayson Braddock? I did a lazy Google search and it said NFL scout and a sports radio guy for Houston ( I think most are idiots BTW), but there was no Wiki page to sum up everything for me.

    I'm not familiar with him.

    I noticed he's not on this chart:

    http://www.thehuddlereport.com/scoring/mockdrafts.shtml

    Anyone more familiar with him that can weigh in before I completely dismiss him as a guy just reaching out for attention?
     
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    So, if you're double jointed and can really bend out your pinky and/or thumb, you are a better QB? :gamer:
     
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    Media/radio guy, NFL & draft analyst, been doing it for some time now -- 10+ years? Jason never falls prey to group-think. Has unique, yet valid takes that have rung true for me often over the years.

    Watch Smith's tape. There's something to work with there. Has concussion history.
     
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    He should have made that list I posted then if he was any good. I do like guys that form their own opinions probably more than most, but I want to see some credibility to it being backed up though.

    Nope. lol. I'll take your word that he's a pretty credible QB though.
     
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    I'm higher on Smith than most people but I think he's a late 2nd round prospect at best. I have him at the top of the 3rd round. He could be everything that Manziel is supposed to be or he could totally flame out. The coaching he gets at the next level is essential. He is raw.

    I wouldn't call him a poor man's Manziel. I'd just call him an even less developed Manziel. Both have the potential to be a Jeff Garcia (Manziel) or Mark Brunell (Smith) type of QB if they develop correctly, and there is nothing wrong with that at all. I would say Manziel has a higher floor. At worst, I think Manziel could still make an impact in a three year window. Smith needs to be brought along slowly.
     
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    There are a few of us (myself & Steebtexan included) who are high on Smith.

    I have him in the top 75 prospects but at this point think he could be had in the early portion of the 4th round mainly because he has flown under the radar for the most part tho that could change if he shows well at the combine.

    There isn't much he's missing other than a cannon arm.

    I agree Manziel (and TB , BB) has the higher floor .... but who has the higher ceiling ?!
     
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    I didn't mean to insinuate that nobody else likes him, just that most people have no clue who he is or have at least never seen him. He's definitely under the radar.

    I have him at #78. Smith's ceiling is probably similar to Manziel's but he is much cheaper.
     
  12. steelbtexan

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    I don't have a big board right now. But if I did I would guess Smith would be in the 55-65 range. I am higher on him than most. Guess what the knock on Montana was coming out of college? Good not great arm strength/tried to make things happen that weren't there.
     
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    Seems like we are going to need a much better Oline & coaching regardless of whom is the QB + we better have a good RB back there. I hope someone on Texans is a really good talent evaluator.
     
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    Smith is way more similar to Manziel than people think or want to admit.

    He is an above average athlete at QB, not quite as good as Manziel. He bails the pocket early just like Manziel does, although he does seem a little bit more comfortable standing in there. Makes plays with his feet but is too reliant on his athleticism instead of his arm, just like Manziel.

    He is an accurate passer, on the same level as Manziel. He has a strong enough arm, not as strong as Manziel's. He seems more comfortable letting it fly than he does reading the defense and finding the correct read, a trait that Manziel also shares. He's a gunslinger with a lot of confidence, often making throws he shouldn't just because he thinks he can. Another thing he has in common with Manziel.

    He plays in a simplified offense, but probably not to the degree that Manziel does. Either way, they both have a lot of ground to make up in that category.

    I like his size better than Manziel's. They are about even as far as their mental development. What makes Manziel better for me is that he has similar but slightly better physical tools plus he consistently helped drag his team to wins, and against far superior competition. Smith had almost no help at Wyoming but you would've liked to see better results. Plus, Manziel only has about three bad games on tape in two years. Smith has about six in the same time span.
     
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    Agreed,

    You've watced more of Smith than I have. But the reasons stated above is why I would rather have Smith at 55-65 than any QB at 1-1. What do JM/Smith also have in common? Great footwork and accuracy.

    The competition thingy isn't a deal breaker for me at 3-1.
     
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    The gunslinger image is interesting depending on how it is defined. Old West gunfighters' reps were made on being faster but actually, it was about being successful. You could be faster and miss the target and lose the "game". For many it was a point and shoot with little thinking from what I understand. From what I've seen of Manziel he just has a "feeling" or as it has been identified as "spidey sense". Can't be explained, just seems to work for the most part. If he can make another step forward as he did before this last season, he could be one of a kind. Tune down the rush to rush (and he did that better this season) behind a line he feels comfortable with and that would eliminate my biggest objection. I have not watched Smith, could the same be said about him?
     
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    It shouldn't be a deal breaker. I have two issues though.

    There is no guarantee that he is there at 3-1. So if he's your guy you have to take him at 2-1 or trade up from 3-1 into the 2nd round to be sure you get him. I'm okay with that if O'Brien needs to have him.

    I also think he needs one year minimum holding a clipboard, preferably two. Not only is he facing a huge mental jump like Manziel, but he is also facing a huge jump in competition. I'm okay with that too. I actually prefer that, but it does fly in the face of McNair's "win now" mantra.
     
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    Yes the same could apply to Smith.

    He may as well have played behind the OL HHWNBM did in the commercial that didn't have an OL ..... they were that bad. You put this guy behind a bottom third of the NFL line and he'd probably think it was a luxury ....

    Add to that the fact that the offense was wide open , defenders didn't have to respect the run at all meaning they could just pin their ears back and attack the passer. Smith had to let it fly or .... get gone.

    I think some of that gunslinger talk the scouts mention comes from the fact that he didn't get a lot of time to process information , he had to make those decisions instantly.


    What he did against Nebraska , despite the difference in talent was pretty impressive even if they did eventually lose.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFL-kzFIMqE
     
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    No combine invite for Brett Smith .... That's got to sting.


    I really wonder how many NFL guy's show up at Wyoming's pro day. (Do they even have one ?)
     
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    Has everybody decided that Foster is though?
     

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