Breakdown of Carr's stats

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  1. hollywood_texan

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    I found on espn.com that there is page called splits if you have a players stats page pulled up. Here is the link, http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/splits?playerId=3529.

    These breakdowns were very interesting and thought it would provide a little more context to the David Carr stat discussion.

    Here goes:

    Passing Breakdown
    Part of the Field ==Comp== Att
    Right side== 23.31%== 20.71%
    Left side== 29.24%== 28.40%
    Middle== 8.90%== 10.06%
    Left sideline== ==17.37%== 17.75%
    Right sideline== 21.19%== 23.08%

    Passing Breakdown
    Part of the Field ==Comp== Att
    Behind line== 23.31%== 25.44%
    1 - 10 yards== 63.14%== 58.58%
    11 - 20 yards== 10.59%== 10.65%
    21 - 30 yards== 1.27%== 2.07%
    31 - 40 yards== 1.69%== 3.25%

    TDs Thrown
    Leading 8-14 == 1
    Leading 1-7 == 1
    Tied = 3
    Behind by +22 == 5

    QB Rating
    Leading by 15-21 == 39.6 (only 0-1)
    Leading 8-14 == 139.0 (only 6-7 for 55 yards and 1 TD)
    Leading 1-7 == 77.1 (41-65 for 271 yards)
    Behind 1-7 == 80.1 (61-90 for 563 yards)
    Tied == 97.36 (55-75 for 675 yards)
    Behind 8-14 == 50.5 (22-36 for 178 yards)
    Behind 15-21 == 80.2 (28-37 for 234 yards)
    Behind by +22 == 142.4 (24 - 28 for 243 yards)

    I went a little step further, if you take out the stats when behind by 22 or more, David's stats are:

    Att=Comp=Yards=TD=Int
    213=311=1976=5=7

    which comes to a QB rating of 81.61.
     
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  2. the wonger need food

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    Nice breakdown. Based on these numbers there is no doubt that most of his stats are padded in garbage time.
     
  3. hot pickle

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    yeah they are, troy smith in the draft anyone, try to get 2 first rounders?
     
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    Can't argu with that. I would only add this in his defense: Most defenses call off the dogs during garbage time, which results in fewer people in his face and allows him time to make his reads. The only thing I'm pretty sure about is that our O-Line has never been what you could actually call good. As a matter of fact, most of those units have been way over paid and not qualified to do the job. It's pretty obvious to me that Kubiak's system is limited by the inability of the o-line. I think he realizes this and did from the start and that's why we drafted Spencer and Winston. Look for another unsexy(or is it non sexy) pick or two this coming draft on trench guys. This has to be fixed or it really won':twocents: t matter who takes the snaps.
     
  6. whiskeyrbl

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    Well something is wrong because he has thrown 10 Td's and you have him down for 5. Sorry didn't read thru at the end where you refer to being 22 points behind or more, my bad. Carry on, nice breakdown.
     
  7. mean mark8

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    At last somebody who found some cold hard stats that verify what we've all thought. Out of his 339 attempt fully 83.77% have been for 10 yards or less; 25% have been behind the line of scrimmage of which he only completes 64%. 18 pass attempts (5%) through 11 games over 20 yards.

    Comparables:
    Vince Young - 60% for 10 yards or less, 21% behind the line of scrimmage. 34 attempts over 20 yards (14.7%) in 10 games.

    Tom Brady - 71.9% for 10 yards or less, 16.3% behind the line of scrimmage. 48 attempts over 20 yards (13.1%).

    Drew Brees - 72% for 10 yards or less, 21% behind the line of scrimmage. 37 attempts over 20 yards (9%).

    Peyton Manning - 64% for 10 yards or less, 13.5% behind the line of scrimmage. 47 attempts over 20 yards (12.4%).


    I believe the stats show, Carr has no vision other than the one read down field for 1.5 seconds then dump the ball to the check down receiver behind the line. While Young's stats aren't great, at least you can see he's looking down field. The great ones throw one out of 7 attempts behind the line and virtually the same number over 20 yards.
     
  8. eriadoc

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    I keep expecting someone to come on this thread and point out that stats are worthless.

    :yawn:
     


  9. HOOK'EM

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    This is just SAD, its time for him to go. I wish him the best on any other team besides the Texans.:gun:
     
  10. GNTLEWOLF

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    Since you asked.... Come on guys...we all know stats don't mean anything:redtowel:
     
  11. HOOK'EM

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    Carr's had his chance, time to move on! For the sake of the team Kubiak, get rid of him.
     
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    Nice breakdown...it confirms what we already suspected :brickwall
     
  13. Specnatz

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    I am on the fence about Carr, but can you also add the time he has to throw down the field, when game is close compared to the time he has to throw when down by 21 or more?

    As far as saying tiny troy, I can say NO and heck No if you wish.
     
  14. Kaiser Toro

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    So we have two QB's that perfrom well in garbage time, but one has a cap hit of 7.2m and the other has a hit of 1.1m? Logic and the Texans have never got along.
     
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    You may not be helping other's points, but you are mine:
    7.7m + 7.2m > 7.7m + 1.1m
     
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    Honoring Earl 34 Hey Koolaid

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    What ?
     
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    Honoring Earl 34 Hey Koolaid

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    I'm willing to throw Chester and McKinney with Carr under the cap hit bus .
     
  19. Goldeagle

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    Stats are only worthless when defending David
     
  20. Kaiser Toro

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    The member is either pushing this Carr cryer handle and it may be a generational slang. This is why I love message boards as it brings people from all walks of life to share their ideas, language and experiences.

     

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