Brandon Harris: lost cause?

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  1. awc713

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    I was wondering what people's opinions were on Harris. I was excited when we nabbed him in the second round a couple years back, but its been 3 years and I cringe when we put him in.

    Opinions on his play, and his 2013 role? If he doesn't produce at a high level this year--is it time to cut ties?
     
  2. Brisco_County

    Brisco_County Texans worthy

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    After quarterback, I think that corners generally take the most time to develop. As long as he makes improvement year over year -- no matter how slowly -- he's worth keeping on the roster. Whether he produces at a "high level" or not, he'll have a role to fill.
     
  3. Tailgate

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    Came out early. Has only played in 2 seasons thus far. Patience.
     
  4. deucetx

    deucetx All Pro

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    I saw potential in his play. He had lapses but that was to be expected. He hadn't played against opposition all year until week 13 against the Titans so to expecting him to walk out there and shine at one of the most difficult defensive positions is bit much. As the season progressed he seemed to finally settle down and improved.

    His best showings were against Luck and the Colts so that was a positive. He also played better in his second round against the Patriots....not that it mattered much in the end, heh.
     
  5. Texan_Touchdown

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    I liked the Brandon Harris pick. He's an aggressive player and get his share of flags, but I think that will ease with experience. I think this could be a break out year for him. If it is, I wouldn't mind him taking over the nickel. Or man on the slot receiver or something. I heard Swearinger is coming around fast. And that can definitely help out our DB's if we can play man most of the time and give the defense line more time to pressure the QB or TFL's.
     
  6. thunderkyss

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    I love Brandon Harris.

    Not like, Love.

    He's scrappy, he's good in coverage, gets to the ball, & he ain't scurred if yo name be Reggie Wayne.

    He got a couple of penalties for being aggressive & not allowing the receiver to push him around. I like it. I'd much rather my guy take that call, than to let it go (the refs weren't going to call the foul on Reggie Wayne) & give up a TD.

    I do like McCain, totally different skill set though. We've also McCain play at a high level (2009) a low level (2010), sorta hig (2011), slipp'n again (2012)..... it's going to be interesting to see what the coaches do with those two.
     
  7. 76Texan

    76Texan Hall of Fame

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    Depth in the backfield, or with any unit for that matter, is important.

    :worldpeace:
     
  8. eriadoc

    eriadoc Texan-American

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    He's a bust. Anyone taken that high in the draft that's done as little as he has is a bust. But he isn't a lost cause.
     


  9. Mr teX

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    He only really started getting PT this past year right? If that's the case then what we saw last was to be expected..I think this is the year we find out about him. If he's still :toropalm: then yeah, time to cut bait.
     
  10. thunderkyss

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    If Kj continues to play like he's playing & Jjo returns to form, the only chance he's got is Nickel Corner. & if McCain plays like he has in the past (in the good years)... he may not get much of a chance to show us anything. The coaches may get to see it in practice, but we won't see that.

    Doesn't necessarily mean what we think it means if he's not playing much. We just paid McCain a little bit. Harris is probably still cheap depth.
     
  11. Rey

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    That's true, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of him playing against certain guys due to match-ups if he's showing his ability in practice. He seems more physical than McCain, so if you have a more physical player running out of the slot Harris might match up better, whereas McCain might match up better against more shifty players.

    Or Harris could just simply outplay McCain in the pre-season and camp.
     
  12. thunderkyss

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    He reminds me a lot of Glover Quin.
     
  13. the wonger need food

    the wonger need food Hall of Fame

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    If Harris, Charmichael and McCain can grow together and we can get Kareem back at a decent number, the possibilities are limitless for this secondary. Plug in another young safety and we've got Young Guns II (old Oilers reference).
     
  14. Mr teX

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    Pretty much...Mccain's coming off injury as well so its a very real possibilty Harris could give him a run for some PT.....if he has indeed improved.
     
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    Harris is progressing similar to KJ. Hopefully, Harris will have a good third season as did KJ last year. Problem with that is KJ was on field a lot, Harris is not.
     
  16. Lucky

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    Harris is a zone CB (maybe) on a man defense team. Bad fit and not a lot of talent to boot. The Texans didn't draft a CB or sign a vet CB, so I guess Harris' job is safe. Hopefully, Joseph, Jackson, and McCain can stay healthy and limit Harris' snaps.
     
  17. 76Texan

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    Lucky, don't forget that both Harris and Carmichael came from programs that use the same defensive scheme as Wade's match-man coverage.

    Even so, I think it's going to be a very competitive camp this year.
    I agree with the many posters here who see positives in this secondary.
    It is a far cry from 2010.
     
  18. Lucky

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    Doesn't mean they can play it on an NFL level. I haven't seen enough of Carmichael to have an opinion, really.
     
  19. gary

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    I think Reed if he plays will help all of them.
     
  20. Allstar

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    Still early, but it's not looking good.
     

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