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Discussion in 'Mock Draft Talk' started by beerlover, Dec 6, 2010.

  1. beerlover

    beerlover Site Contributor

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    We are headed at this point into the offseason with a lot of uncertainty so instead of creating mock draft based on what the Texans need or will do lets help each other analyize all NFL prospects, then grade them accordingly on who & where we expect them to be selected.

    here is one we can start with Fantasy Football Toolbox - http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/2011/top-nfl-prospects-for-2011.cfm it's less than one month old so its a little dated but it can be a starting point. For instance I would grade Janoris Jenkins, CB, Florida ahead of Ras-I Dowling, CB, Virginia (who knows Jenkins could wind up being the Texans 1st rd. pick when all is said & done).

    anyway this is just general information gathering at this point see if we as collective group can create something useful & constructive?

     
  2. rmartin65

    rmartin65 I'm Score

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    Good idea, as if a new coach is hired, depending on the scheme it will really jack up mock drafts. Biggest thing wrong with that board is Dowling. He is not a top 50 prospect, let alone top 32.
     
  3. drs23

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    I've been hearing so much about Oliver's kid I've really been wanting to watch him play but I've not seen a Cardinal game listed yet. Is he as good as everyone thinks? When can we see him play? Bowl game?
     
  4. Doppelganger

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    I don't think Jared Crick is a 1st round pick. He is spotty and has a hot/cold motor. Sometimes he shows up and other times he does not. I see him as a 3rd round talent.
     
  5. rmartin65

    rmartin65 I'm Score

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    Yes. In a word, yes. He could be starting for 90% of NFL teams this Sunday.

    Stanford plays VA Tech in the Orange Bowl on Jan 3rd.
     
  6. JB

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    His dad certainly had the smarts to play the position. He just didn't quite have what it took physically. This young man does.
     
  7. rmartin65

    rmartin65 I'm Score

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    Yep. Seriously, this kid is on my draft watch, and I dont necessarily think Schaub needs to be replaced. I think we should draft a future replacement, but an immediate starter is not high on my needs list.

    However, if somehow the Texans found themselves in a position to get Luck (either he falls, or through a trade up), I would be ecstatic.

    Off the top of my head, the only QBs in the NFL that are hands down better than him are Peyton, Rivers and Rogers.
     
  8. JB

    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    Actually, when you consider Peyton's age and Rivers asshattery, only Rogers would be considered a better value right now...imo.
     
  9. beerlover

    beerlover Site Contributor

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    I would trade Schaub along with the Texans 1st rd. pick for the #1 overall selection if Luck comes out.

    Back to reality. So drop Crick & Dowling. Now who to add & where?

    1.Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford - 6'4 - 235
    2.A.J. Green, WR, Georgia - 6'4 - 212
    3.Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU - 6'1 - 222
    4.Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska - 6'1 - 205
    5.Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina - 6'5 - 268
    6.Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa - 6'4" - 285
    7.Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama - 6'3 - 306
    8.Jake Locker, QB, Washington - 6'3 - 230
    9.Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State - 6'5" - 288
    10.Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas - 6'6 - 238
    11.Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson - 6'4 - 280
    12.Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn - 6'5 - 298
    13.Allen Bailey, DE, Miami - 6'4 - 288
    14.Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama - 5'10 - 215
    15.Akeem Ayers, LB, UCLA - 6'4 - 255
    16.Julio Jones, WR, Alabama - 6'4 - 220
    17.Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College - 6'7 - 308
    18.
    19.Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue - 6'4 - 263
    20.Janoris Jenkins, CB, Florida - 5'11 - 186
    21.Bruce Carter, LB, North Carolina - 6'3 - 230
    22.Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State - 6'5 - 305
    23.Nate Solder, OT, Colorado - 6'9 - 315
    24.Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pittsburgh - 6'5 - 230
    25.Rodney Hudson, C, Florida State - 6'2 - 282
    26.Greg Romeus, DE, Pittsburgh - 6'6 - 270
    27.Jeremy Beal, DE, Oklahoma - 6'3 - 267
    28.
    29.Rahim Moore, S, UCLA - 6'1 - 196
    30.Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame - 6-3 - 227
    31.Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State - 6'1 - 311
    32.Jurrell Casey, DT, USC - 6'1 - 305
     
  10. rmartin65

    rmartin65 I'm Score

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    Call me a homer, but I think Travis Lewis deserves late 1st round consideration. Great size and athleticism, and just makes plays.

    I have a suggestion for the format though. Instead of starting off with a board, why dont we just build from scratch?

    Luck would be number 1, who is number 2? I would say Peterson, not Green.
     
  11. JB

    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    No Von Miller in the first? I haven't seen him that much, but there seems to be a lot of people high on him.
     
  12. beerlover

    beerlover Site Contributor

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    as always good idea! so luck it is.
    my vote for #2 would be Patrick Peterson, DB LSU

    1. Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford - 6'4 - 235
     
  13. beerlover

    beerlover Site Contributor

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    next grouping -

     
  14. JB

    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    Are you going Texans big board or NFL big board?

    Are you going to rank numerically or within tiers?
     
  15. Doppelganger

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    Perhaps it would be easier if we group picks (by 5's) rather than try to do it one by one?

    Here is my current top 5(subject to change)

    1. Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
    2. Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
    3 .Marcell Dareus DT, Alabama
    4. Anthony Castonzo, OT Boston Coll.
    5. Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina
     
  16. beerlover

    beerlover Site Contributor

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    good questions.

    I would say NFL BIG BOARD first then we could always revisit doing a Texan Big Board (closer to draft time when we know more)?

    Simple numeric as a start. do numerically ranking going forward per position.

    Really everyone may have a differnent approach, I'm open to ideas. If all goes smooth can expand to a top 50 or 60 which should help everyone with their individual mocks. rmartin65 is the best, I've worked with him lots he usually has breakdowns of most positions, that would be an excellent start.
     
  17. steelbtexan

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    2nd pick if we're going by Talent/Value

    Patrick Peterson CB LSU
     
  18. beerlover

    beerlover Site Contributor

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    that's four, good enough consensus for our purpose so we have the first two picks nailed, right?

    #1. Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford - 6'4 - 235
    #2. Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU - 6'1 - 222


    now it gets interesting. got one vote for Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama (Doppelganger1).
     
  19. rmartin65

    rmartin65 I'm Score

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    I could see Darius, but I personally think Da'Quan Bowers is the 3rd guy here. He has freakish athleticism (Mario style), and finally put it together on the field this season.
     
  20. Blake

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    HOMER!!! j/k He is a very good player.

    Great idea. But I disagree on #2. Green is head and shoulders ahead of Peterson. Green is the best player in the draft that is NOT a QB.
     

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