Discussion in 'The National Football League' started by TEXANS84, Mar 3, 2008.
I had heard yesterday that they were really close on getting this deal done. All I can say is WOW!! Pittsburgh has never been known to spend that kind of money...
Better QBs don't even get that kind of dough.
If he got it, good for him....Is he worth it? Hard to say, is anyone really worth that kind of money, but more power to him, they offered it, he took it..
Roger Clemens needs to hire those guys as his lawyers.
They must have some kind of mind-control device that they used on Pittsburgh's GM.
I agree. I don't think he's worth but half of that.
he got them a ring. something they hadn't tasted since the 70s. he deserves the money and I applaud Pittsburgh for rewarding a player that delivered for them. when you win, you gotta pay the piper.
I would say that he better be willing to renegotiate in the future because they need some more talent at WR and may have to spend some $$ to fix that here in a couple years.
That is upper echelon QB money. Big Ben is not upper echelon.
Won the Superbowl
Taken the Steelers to 3 playoff visits in his 4 years in the league
Posted QB rating ranging from 98-104 in 3 of his 4 seasons
I'd love a 'non upper echelon' QB like Roethliserger... All, they're paying for him, but its a premier QB wrapped for years, and I think he can only get better, especially after last years 32 TDs. And if the Steelers can bolster their OL, then his 47 sacks will decrease and his productivity will only grow.
He came to an established team that was/is founded on Defense and a dominating running game. He isn't there to "win" games ala Manning Brady; he has been more of a manager. No way I'd pay that type money for him. Don't get me wrong I think he is good, but not great. I'd take Palmer over him and wouldn't think twice about.
Are you talking about Willie Parker or Big Ben?
No doubts having Parker in the backfield helps him out a lot, and the WRs there are a great help too, but the fact he hit more TDs than most QBs in the league last year, with a substantially lower amount of attempts just smacks of this guy being one of the top passers in the league. He has the deep ball for Holmes, he can scramble, he can take a hit, throw whilst moving well, he's big...I just can't see how much else he could be improved on realistically.
The Steelers offence isn't broken, its damn good, and if it costs money to keep a vital cog in that tool working, then so be it, even if you do pay a few more $$$ in the process. If it aint broke, don't fix it, and if you can afford your franchise player, then hold onto him for as long as you can.
some people just don't get it. big ben IS an elite QB. Period. End of story. Some people must think they just hand out Lombardi trophies like welfare.
And who cares if you think Palmer is better than Ben. Palmer is also paid elite money as well. Ben just happened to be the latest to get a new deal thus the numbers will be higher because of inflation and market demands.
Ben had over 30 TDs last year and did that behind a delapidated offensive line. Ben has won a long coveted ring for teh city of Pittsburgh and the guy just wins. Is he as good as Peyton? Hell no, but who the freak is? Sometimes you guys don't have a grasp on reality. Just because he isn't as good as Peyton doesnt mean he isn't going to get paid or that he isn't that good. There is only one Peyton and even he looked mortal this year.
Lets give Ben credit for coming into the league and making an impact and winning a championship. It's such a shame that the same board that made so many excuses for their own failed QBs seem to have no problem criticizing QBs that are actually good and have won championships and big games. Come on now. its about winning not about being pretty or having uber stats.
Trust me, if Ben hadn't been resigned, they would have had a riot in Pittsburgh. The guy is a winner and he has already delivered. Why not reward excellence and achievement, instead of rewarding failures like the Texans have.
Once in a blue moon, you say something I agree with wholeheartedly...
I dont think whether or not Roethlisberger deserves the money is the interesting point of this story. I think the fact that the notoriously cheap (errrrrrr frugile) Steelers made this deal is the big news...
I would say that Roethlisberger is one of the top 6 QBs in the league.
With that said, I would only give out $100 mil to two guys, & Ben isnt one of them.
Congrats to Ben for gettin paid tho. The kid is a gamer & he is definitely talented. If they offer it, its not his fault for accepting it.
You know what, you are entitled to your opinion and so am I. If you don't like my view - don't read my post. When he carries a team - then $100M is worth while. Until then blah - Willie Parker and the D make that team. I'm glad he now has financial security in his life.
they had no choice, bro. my best bud is a lifelong Steelers fan and he had been pining for a franchise QB since we were 10 years old back in the Bradshaw days.
the Steelers have never had an opportunity to resign a top QB because they have never had one. They did give decent money to O'Donnell, Stewart, and Maddox at different times...but not in the same league as elite Roethlisberger money.
Steeler Nation would have gone ballistic if Ben had been allowed to go UFA or if the Steelers would have resorted to Franchise tag tactics. Ben is far from flawless but he is loved without question by the gold and black faithful. Rooney Co. had no choice but to bend over for Ben.
I hear ya... I just think back to some of the names they let get away because they didn't want to pay the money. Although not QB's, names like Greg Lloyd and Kevin Greene immediately come to mind.
your getting too fixated on the bottom line and getting blinded by the money. the money is just the current market evaluation for a franchise QB. dude has proven he can lead a team through the regular season, through the playoffs, and win the Super Bowl. As a bonus he is young and has proven he can take an asswhoopin' (see 2007 season behind porous OL) he just so happened to be the latest one to get a new mega deal so the numbers can seem inflated at first glance. This just means the next elite guy's contract that comes up will be even more than Ben's is.
As for how Parker 'made' that team. Do you watch Steelers football? I have seen just about every game they have played over the past decade and Ben has made a HUGE difference in their offense. His progression actually bought his Off Coordinators head coaching jobs in the NFL. This isn't the Franco Harris-era Steelers anymore. They aren't afraid to pound the ball, but they have been passhappy for going on about 7 years now (since Maddox's revival)
I know that Ben is in the Top 10 of NFL Quarterbacks, the most important position in football. Is Parker Top 10? Borderline at best. Oh and fwiw, Parker is already paid like an elite back.
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