Best College Team vs. Worst Pro Team

Discussion in 'College Football & the NFL Draft' started by TheCD, Jul 15, 2006.

  1. TheCD

    TheCD All Pro

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2006
    Messages:
    982
    Likes Received:
    63
    Location:
    Wichita Falls, TX
    Since it's that time of year again (you know what I mean) I decided I'd go ahead and restart the old debate...

    Do you think that the best College Team could (realistically) beat the worst pro team (i.e. USC beating us)? This can include the best college team of all time and the worst pro team of all time...
     
  2. blockhead83

    blockhead83 All Pro

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2004
    Messages:
    715
    Likes Received:
    20
    Location:
    College Station, Texas
    No, as I think was stated in the past when this question was raised they used to have college All-stars play NFL players and they always got wrecked. Any one college team won't have a boatload of players who'll even make the NFL, much less play at a high level upon getting there. NFL teams are composed of the best of the best from college, who've proven that they can compete at a high level against much better competition than college teams.

    Any NFL team would put the smack down on any college team.
     
  3. Huge

    Huge Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 5, 2004
    Messages:
    2,386
    Likes Received:
    63
    Location:
    Out yonder way...
    Imagine an NFL team composed of nothing but rookies.

    Would you like their chances against the worst team in the NFL?

    Yeah, me either.
     
  4. tiger06

    tiger06 Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2004
    Messages:
    265
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Texarkana, TX
    there's no way any college team would ever beat any pro team
     
  5. swtbound07

    swtbound07 Jackass of Day!

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2004
    Messages:
    9,474
    Likes Received:
    758
    Location:
    Tampa, Florida
    I disagree. Here is why.

    You put dom capers on the pro team, and his gameplan is to keep things close and blow it in the 4th......
     
  6. bigbrewster2000

    bigbrewster2000 4th Infantry

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2006
    Messages:
    1,350
    Likes Received:
    112
    Location:
    The Woodlands
    Thanks for the fantastic insight once again.....
     
  7. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2004
    Messages:
    17,539
    Likes Received:
    1,613
    iF A TREE FALLS IN THE FOREST AND NO ONE HEARS IT, IS THERE REALLY A SOUND??........................LET THIS QUESTION DIE! NO ONE WILL EVER SET UP A REAL LIVE GAME TO TRY TO DEMONSTRATE THE HYPOTHESIS.

    ________________________________________

    OPINION

    Can a College Football Team Beat an NFL Team?
    December 05, 2005
    Craig Lyndall

    This morning on the Mike and Mike show on ESPN Radio, Mike Greenberg decided it was the time of year to ask the question that seems to get asked at least once per season as we weave toward the end of the college football year.

    "What if (fill in the blank dominant college football team) lined up against (fill in the blank struggling NFL team)?"

    A few years back when the Miami Hurricanes looked unbeatable, people wanted to know if they could beat the woeful Cincinnati Bengals. Now that the Bengals are good that question is silly. So this year's incarnation of the question was the USC Trojans vs. the injured and struggling New York Jets.

    So Greenberg is asking the question and sensing that it is coming, co-host Mike Golic interrupts and says "No." before Greenberg can even finish asking the question. USC would get killed by the banged up Jets team. There is no way that the college team could ever stack up against an NFL team.

    I agree with him, and I wish that this question/argument would just go away forever. It isn't even close. The NFL team will have 11 NFL capable players on their side of the ball and the college team will not. Let's take this year's question. Reggie Bush and Matt Leinart are both going to the NFL next season and they will be drafted in the first round, assuming no career-threatening injuries are sustained in their bowl game. The argument goes that they are NFL-quality players. While I will agree that they are going to be high draft picks and certainly capable of performing in the NFL, they are far from being NFL-quality players.

    Think of it this way. How many NFL rookies come into the league and make an immediate impact? Not very many. Carson Palmer sat for an entire year before he started to play well. Despite the fact that he was a great college player, there was an NFL learning curve. Not to mention the fact that he didn't have to try and weather that learning curve with 10 other rookies. He had an offensive line, a couple wide receivers and a running back who were all past the rookie curve. The USC Trojans have zero players who are anywhere on the NFL learning curve. Every player on every NFL team has the experience bonus over every single USC player.

    So now think of the USC Trojans with 11 offensive players and 11 defensive players who have far less experience and far less talent in many cases than their counterparts across the way. The NFL players on the practice squad are at least as good as many of the players on the Trojans.

    The other portion of the argument is that you can't play this out on paper. The proponents of this College vs. Pro argument say that stacking a team against another team is different than going position by position and declaring a winner. I can agree with that to an extent. There is something to be said for the chemistry that a team builds over the course of a season or a 4-year college career. But, the same thing can be said for the NFL team. In my mind that is a wash. Same with coaching.

    Don't fall victim to this argument this year or any subsequent year. A college football team doesn't stand a chance. It doesn't matter which college team dominates the world next year and it doesn't matter which NFL team falls apart next year.

    LINK
     
  8. TheCD

    TheCD All Pro

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2006
    Messages:
    982
    Likes Received:
    63
    Location:
    Wichita Falls, TX
    I'm just wondering if there's anyone out there who does believe that a college team could prevail and present a convincing argument to that fact. Anyone up to the challenge?
     


  9. mikoto

    mikoto Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2004
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    3
    The best college team ever sends maybe 5-10 players to the NFL in a year and most of those end up on the pine, or practice squad, or cut. End of story.

    Re: Tree falling in the woods, that has an answer and Cloak knows it.



    [Edit: comma placement]
     
  10. The Pencil Neck

    The Pencil Neck Subscribed Contributor

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2006
    Messages:
    21,486
    Likes Received:
    1,669
    Location:
    Moraira, Spain
    If you limit it to recent memory, no. But if you're going to go best college team of all time against the worst pro team of all time, sure. There have been some really, really bad teams in the NFL and the worst team from the 20's wouldn't have a chance against most college teams today. A modern college team will have bigger, faster, and stronger athletes than a team from 60+ years ago.

    And even if you restrict it to teams of the same period, I think some college teams from the 20's-50's were better coached and more athletic than the worst pro teams of the time.
     
  11. Hookem Horns

    Hookem Horns That Server Guy Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2004
    Messages:
    7,689
    Likes Received:
    1,113
    We'll find out when the Titans (Young, Lendale White) play the Texans. :)

    P.S. USC were not and still aren't the best college team.
     
  12. Speedy

    Speedy Yeller Dweller

    Joined:
    May 1, 2004
    Messages:
    3,495
    Likes Received:
    451
    Location:
    The Livable Forest
    Yes, back in the days of yore maybe, but not today.

    College All-Star Game

    You'll see that the College all-stars won 9 times in that 43 game series, last win was in 1963. The pros won 31 times and there was 1 tie.

    In today's world, with the training, strength, and speed of the NFL, there's no way even the best college all-stars could take on the worst NFL team, much less the Super Bowl champs.
     
  13. HJam72

    HJam72 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2004
    Messages:
    11,620
    Likes Received:
    656
    Location:
    Over here.
    Uh, UT is the best team in College football, USC just had the best offense.
     
  14. HJam72

    HJam72 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2004
    Messages:
    11,620
    Likes Received:
    656
    Location:
    Over here.
    Too many young players would get injured. It sounds fun, but it's not a good thing.
     
  15. PapaL

    PapaL Loose Screw

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2004
    Messages:
    14,555
    Likes Received:
    926
    Location:
    Maryland
    Any given Sunday....Is it possible, Yes. Likey? No.
     
  16. MorKnolle

    MorKnolle Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2005
    Messages:
    3,210
    Likes Received:
    127
    Agreed, I doubt many of the good players would play, especially the college ones as they wouldn't want to get hurt right before their draft preparations began, and it would be difficult to manage the liability of such injured players, not to mention the NFL players/team would probablynot want to bother playing hard either.
     
  17. Kaiser Toro

    Kaiser Toro Native Mod

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    16,247
    Likes Received:
    1,166
    Location:
    Straight Outta Austin
    I would rather see the best two college football teams play a game against one another first. Luckliy that happened last year and we got a great game.
     
  18. real

    real Guest

    Do you guys think that one of the best highschool teams could beat one of the worst Division I-A teams....IMO, yes....
     
  19. ledzeppelin229

    ledzeppelin229 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 1, 2004
    Messages:
    6,829
    Likes Received:
    314
    Location:
    Spring / San Marcos, TX
    Nah I don't think so...I think it's the same basic concept as College-Pro just on a lower level. Maybe it wouldn't be as much of a jump but I still think there would be a big difference. Everyone on even the worst I-A college team was a star in HS. Even I-AA I think it would be really tough for even the best HS team.
     
  20. real

    real Guest

    See that IMO, is a REAL debate....because I played I-AA football at Florida A&M and IMO, My highschool team would have mopped the floor with that squad...I think that some of the powerhouse highschool teams could easily beat some of the lower level college teams...just from personal experience...other than that I don't really have anything to back up my assumption...
     

Share This Page