BADBOY's 2011 pre-season mock

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  1. badboy

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    I am predicting Texans are 11-5 and picking at #25.

    QB: what is there for us to look at that is more than a project? Locker, Luck, Ponder and Devlin will probably all be gone by our 2nd. For now, I think Mallett does not come out. As stated before I will be watching Enderle but he is coming off a shoulder injury and has an avg arm anyway. I'm becoming more concerned with Orlovsky daily.

    Center: see the need but just can not see Kubes giving up on Myers without a super stud rookie center ready to step in. I think Pouncey is gone by our 1st and O'Dowd is my leading candidate if he plays healthy and well this season and he should be there in first. Wisnewski interests me but the knee is ? for me. Anything else is a reach imo. So.. O'Dowd in first?

    FS: I just see nothing that assures me Barber or Nolan will be our future. Wilson is steady, when he is on the field. I want a draft pick that will start no later than 2011. If this guy is there in 1st, I think I'd be all over him.
    Deunta Williams, FS, North Carolina
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 205.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.45.
    Projected Round (2011): Top 25 Pick.
    5/14/10: Deunta Williams was an All-ACC First Team member, thanks to 47 tackles, eight pass break-ups and six interceptions.

    Having said that, if I could get Pouncey or O'Dowd in first and Gideon in second I'd be happy.
    Blake Gideon*, FS, Texas
    Height: 6-1. Weight: 200.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.54.
    Projected Round (2011): 2.
    5/14/10: Blake Gideon had 49 tackles and six interceptions to go along with his three pass break-ups in 2009.

    OK here we go:

    1st: Chris O'Dowd Center
    2nd: Blake Gideon FS
    3rd: Nathan Enderle QB
    4th: Chykie Brown CB
    5th:Chris Prosinski SS/FS
    6th: Zach Heberer OG
    7th: Ben Jacobs ILB

    For those of you that think this is way too early, simply back out of thread and stroll on along. It ain't for you.
     
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    I thought Gideon played SS?
     
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    He did, I want to see how the season plays out. But fixing the interior OL is job no.1 IMHO

    With that said my mock would be

    Rd.1 Wiesnewski
    Rd.2 O'Dowd (Falls because of injury concerns)
    Rd.2 Ras-I- Dqwling (after trading up)
     
  4. badboy

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    Remember a guy named Earl Thomas?
     
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    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    Yeah, thats why I thought Gideon was the SS. Do you think they will move him now?
     
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    Gideon was more of a SS last year but was given typical FS responsibilites quite often. Because Texas is so good against the run with their front seven, both safeties can play quite deep against the pass.

    This year he will be almost exclusively a FS. Christian Scott will be taking over Gideon's old position and Gideon will be moving into Earl Thomas' position (although he will not be used as a nickel corner as Thomas was).

    As a college player Gideon is good. He is smart, understands his physical limitations, and plays to his strengths.

    As a NFL prospect, I don't see him making the leap. And I certainly wouldn't use a second rounder on him. He cannot play SS in the NFL. He doesn't tackle well enough. And he doesn't project well to FS athletically. He did manage 6 interceptions this past season, but that was mainly due to Texas having the best pass rush in the nation.

    He can make a NFL roster as a special teams guy and FS depth. But I don't see him as a starter. He just doesn't have the athletic skills to cover NFL WRs.
     
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    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    Thanks for the info. That is what I was looking for.
     
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    I'm also not high on Chykie Brown unless he becomes more consistent in his senior year. He is a guy that will look like Champ Bailey on one series and then Phillip Buchanan on the next two.

    His technique and awareness are severly lacking, which causes him to make mistakes often. But he is an incredible athlete, which usually allows him to recover.

    Will he be able to recover when he is chasing down a NFL WR? I don't know.

    But a fourth rounder is not a bad place to try on a guy like him. If he figures it out he is a steal there.
     


  9. HouSportsWriter

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    nice draft


    heres a quick one i made






    First pick..

    Allen Bailey, DE/DT, Miami
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 288.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.80.

    Okoya is young, but he just should not have been drafted by us.i see us geting allen bailet de / dt

    2nd pick

    Quinton Carter, FS, Oklahoma
    Height: 6-1. Weight: 193.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.53.

    I love to see Carter and Polard on the same team


    3rd pick

    Chykie Brown, CB, Texas
    Height: 6-0. Weight: 187.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.39

    We need all the corners that we can get with Peyton in our league!

    4th pick

    Roy Helu, RB, Nebraska
    Height: 6-0. Weight: 215.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.54

    i see Tate and Helu and Foster starting i hope slaton turns around ,,,

    5th pick

    Jake Kirkpatrick, C/G, TCU
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 305.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.09.

    I know it kinda late to be drafting a center but this is a big kid so i would give him a shot


    6th pick

    Kai Forbath, K, UCLA
    Height: 6-0. Weight: 192.

    if rackers can rack on some points this is no need but if not i see a kicker in the draft
    7th pick

    Brian Smith, ILB, Notre Dame
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 240.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.70.

    back up
     
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    If you are looking at Texas secondary prospects then I would look at Aaron Williams and Curtis Brown. They are both CBs.

    Williams is a junior and a guaranteed first round lock if he enters the draft. He is a lockdown guy. A potential franchise corner.

    Brown is probably a second round guy. He is a senior. Great athlete but has been stuck behind better players for most of his career.
     
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    Williams is probably the #2 CB right now on most boards, if he comes out. I'm pretty sure he will.
     
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    I think so as well. Peterson from LSU is the only CB that should get drafted before him.
     
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    I like what you have going on there badboy. This early, I would be hard pressed to find a better mock. I love the Prosinski pick (glad you agree from our pm's), and the Enderle pick.

    Just for giggles, my pre-season mock would be:

    1) Deunta Williams, FS, North Carolina
    2)John Moffit, OC/OG, Wisconsin
    3) Nathan Enderle, QB, Idaho
    4) Will Rackley, OG, Liberty
    5) Chris Prosinski, FS/SS, Wyoming
    6) Owen Marecic, FB, Stanford
    7) Eric Peitz, TE, Colorado State








    7) Just kidding about that one, Alex Henry, K, Nebraska
     
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    Interesting that you would use a first and second on two centers or would you use Wies as a guard?
     
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    I agree with your assessment of both UT guys and you can bet I will be watching both this season. Brown has the tools and the speed and hopefully another year in college and the good Texans coaching and he will be there. I think we will be deep at CB and especially if Moldin and Sherrick McManus step up. I am looking for an eventual replacement for Reeves.

    I am hoping Gideon will surprise you and others but I could easily be wrong on him. I just don't see many other options for this position.
     
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    SIAB, I am watching your TCU center also. Good eye on your part.
     
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    Nope, do not need a CB that high. Got to fix other areas first.:tiphat:
     
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    Interesting on Moffitt. I considered him but 6'5" 320 gave me pause. 5.13 40 but what about his movement? Seems to have a solid base. Can he get into secondary in our ZBS? Yep on Williams if he is still on board in first as I mentioned. Like your mock. I am sure we will adjust many times if last time is any indication.
     
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    Personally, I don't think the Molden project is gonna work out. Nothing against the guy but I just don't see him being a long term fix at CB. I like McMannis. I'm optimistic about that.

    I don't think Reeves is here long term. Bennett looks lost. So all we really have is Jackson, Quin, and McMannis.

    I hope Gideon surprises me too. As a Longhorn fan, the better he plays the happier I'll be. I just don't see him as a NFL FS. And I don't think we should force it just because FS is not a great situation for us right now. I don't see Gideon as an upgrade over what we have.
     
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    I guess we disagree here. I know we just took Jackson in the first, but let's say we add Williams next year. You can then put Quin over at FS or push him into the nickel CB spot. That's a significant upgrade to our team.

    This is now a passing league. And I'm of the opinion that the more talented DBs you have the better off you are.
     

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