Backups lead Defense to years best performance

Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by nunusguy, Oct 3, 2005.

  1. nunusguy

    nunusguy Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2004
    Messages:
    8,991
    Likes Received:
    244
    Location:
    Houston
    "Cornerback Demarcus Faggins, outside linebacker Shantee Orr and defensive end Travis Johnson joined the starting lineup and made contributions to an improved performance."
    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3379345
    *******************************************************
    I still don't have any problem with the TJ pick this year (no matter how upset some may be on passing on DJ from Texas or anybody else), but the decisions
    involving last years Draft/Babin and in FA with PB this year cost us 4 first day draft picks. Those decisions were killers. That's two 2s and two 3s. With those picks we could have got a real TE, another WR with speed and a couple of offensive lineman. Count 'em again, that's 4 first day picks, or 2/3rds of two years worth of first day picks in the college draft.
     
  2. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2004
    Messages:
    21,847
    Likes Received:
    1,513
    TJ and Orr had two tackles combined and I wasn't real impressed with TJ working against a journeyman who was handling him without a double team. This was a better effort from the defense but those two guys weren't the reason.
     
  3. F-minus67

    F-minus67 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2004
    Messages:
    1,070
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Middletown,CT
    I thought that Willie Anderson played against TJ on Sunday? And Last time I checked he had been to the pro bowl a couple times.
     
  4. PapaL

    PapaL Loose Screw

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2004
    Messages:
    14,341
    Likes Received:
    837
    Location:
    Maryland
    Willie Anderson has been blocking in the NFL since TJ was in middle school. Not sure if they matched up, just an FYI.
     
  5. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2004
    Messages:
    21,847
    Likes Received:
    1,513
    If you have the game recorded you will see TJ and Bobbie Williams one-on-one, and he is handling him easily.
     
  6. Reddevil63

    Reddevil63 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2004
    Messages:
    1,253
    Likes Received:
    14
    Location:
    Arlington
    Thats been a commom theme for 3 seasons, I dont get it.
     
  7. nunusguy

    nunusguy Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2004
    Messages:
    8,991
    Likes Received:
    244
    Location:
    Houston
    "Lineman holds his own
    Texans defensive end Travis Johnson, the No. 1 pick, made his first start in place of the injured Gary Walker.

    "I didn't make any big plays, but nobody took advantage of me, either," Johnson said.

    Right tackle Willie Anderson tried to exploit Johnson.

    "I was going against a Pro Bowl tackle, and he called me out," Johnson said. "He said in the newspaper they were going to run at me the whole game, but I guess that wasn't the right idea."

    The Bengals rushed for 98 yards and a 3.9 average per carry. Johnson was impressed with Anderson's size.

    "He's so massive," he said. "He's all of 370, and I don't care what their program says (6-5, 340)."
    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3379363
     
  8. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2004
    Messages:
    21,847
    Likes Received:
    1,513
    The tackle is out on a linebacker (end in down position) in most passing downs and we were in a 4 man look...that put TJ inside on Bobbie Williams. I'm watching it now. In 3 man fronts TJ is on the T.
     


  9. johnboy

    johnboy Rookie

    Joined:
    May 31, 2005
    Messages:
    56
    Likes Received:
    1
    Two tackles between the four of them,Anderson. Peek Orr &TJ and the Texans said that they believed the new people made contributions to an improved performance (amazing)
     
  10. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2004
    Messages:
    21,847
    Likes Received:
    1,513
    Chester Pitts had more tackles (one) than Peek (although Peek had 3 assists).
     
  11. wags

    wags Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 5, 2004
    Messages:
    1,601
    Likes Received:
    28
    Location:
    TX and FL
    The title of this thread should be Dunta leads defense to best performance. Nobody else really stood out to me in terms of making plays. I am pretty amazed that P-Buc actually tackled somebody. Who saw this coming?

    The thing I'm disturbed about is our linebackers. Peek is not disciplined at all. The personal foul, the offsides, and he also lost contain on the reverse. Wong and Greenwood seem to get pushed around too much and Greenwood can't fill a cutback lane. The lack of playmaking ability is disturbing from our linebackers. Peek drops an INT against the Bills and it looked like Greenwood could have had one in the first series this game.

    Wasn't Wong more effective at OLB last year?

    Did anyone else see Greenwood get tossed like a rag doll by Verron Haynes in the Steelers game? That's the worst serving I've ever seen.
     
  12. Kaiser Toro

    Kaiser Toro Native Mod

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    16,223
    Likes Received:
    1,158
    Location:
    Straight Outta Austin
    Before this last year I was on the Casserly bandwagon, but, due to the first three games of the season, Greenwood is my poster child on why Cass needs to go. He does get thrown around and runs right into this his own defenders.
     
  13. nunusguy

    nunusguy Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2004
    Messages:
    8,991
    Likes Received:
    244
    Location:
    Houston
    While I'm a huge fan of D-Robs, CC and Wong each actually had more tackles than him according to official stats, but D-Rob did again have his usual very good game.
    And to your complaint about the title of the thread, perhaps I took some editorial liberties with that, but it was my thread so got to title it, I'm sure
    you do the same with yours. A more accurate title might be "Backups join
    Defensive starters for years best performance". And it was just that, the Ds
    best effort to date this year, inferring we didn't miss Babin, PB, and Walker one bit.
     

Share This Page