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Babin today had himself a break through game...
Anyone have thoughts on himand his performence today?
Anyone have thoughts on himand his performence today?
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Not quite, but he's doing well.beerlover said:Dunta arrived last week and continued to shine, clearly the best player the Texans have on the defensive side already.
bruenice said:peek flat out needs more field time. babin is improving, but he also does a lot of stupid things too. i swear he ends up on the turf 40% of his snaps, which doesn't benefit at all on defense. 3 snaps on defense is not enough for a player that started 4 games last year and did rather well during those games.
Peek has been terrible as an every down OLB. He takes bad angles and teams isolate him and expose the edge when he plays. Right now he is a situational pass rusher only.georgewashington said:have you ever noticed how much the fans like it when peek is in? seems like giving the game ball to the fans last week means that the crowd has a say in the outcome, and if peek has a say inthe crowd, you do the math.
georgewashington said:and have you ever noticed how much the fans like it when peek is in? seems like giving the game ball to the fans last week means that the crowd has a say in the outcome, and if peek has a say inthe crowd, you do the math.
(on dunta) clearly the best player the Texans have on the defensive side already
Babin had a fine game yesterday, and sure, he will be on the ground from time to time, like everyone else. He is making our decision to move up to snag him look like a better and better move each week.
Why in the world would he chase a running back he has no chance to catch (he was running in the opposite direction)
The point of stretching the field is not to get someone from teh other side to make the tackle, it is to allow more men to come up to the line to make the play
and just because daunte didnt run it doesnt mean Babin isnt at fault, he had all day out on the flat to make a pass, and yes it was a huge back breaker in the game. and for those of you who say his play has been better and better you tell me how 18 tackles and 2 sacks in playing basically 5 games, except 4th quarter against KC, is better than 7 tackles and a sack, and forcing two other sacks in basically 1 quarter against KC, and a few other random downs that Peek has? exactly the math doesnt add up for Babin, say what you want but numbers dont lie.
and forcing two other sacks in basically 1 quarter against KC, and a few other random downs that Peek has
jacquescas said:Babin is where we invested alot of picks and alot more money than Peek.
A couple of second day picks and a third? That was the net parlay for Babin. Since when was a bunch of roster fodder a high price if he becomes a serious starting OLB?georgewashington said:Exactly, thats why the texans shouldnt have spent so much on him, he was not projected to go near that early.
georgewashington said:Exactly, thats why the texans shouldnt have spent so much on him, he was not projected to go near that early.
infantrycak said:By the way, was it just me or did Babin get completely raped by the refs not calling holding on the 1st Moss TD?
georgewashington said:I know that he has potential, but he was not a Suggs that Baltimore picked last year.
Suggs was penciled in as starter for a few weeks early last year. He lost the starting job last season and has only receintly had enough of a well-rounded game to start. Common knowledge is it takes roughly 3 years for a 'tweener' to convert fully from a College end to an NFL OLB.STEEL BLUE TEXANS said:When the Ravens drafted Suggs, he was strictly used as a situational pass rusher because Suggs mightily struggled against the run and in coverage. We drafted Babin and immediately put him out on the field as an every down player. Babin was put in a much more difficult situation than Suggs so he will take his lumps throughout the season as he learns the position. It took Suggs a whole season plus training camp to become a complete OLB. Be patient with Babin.
georgewashington said:exactly, it took suggs time just like it will babin. not many rookies should be playing every snap, there is more to learning than taking lumps. and once again he is allowed to take his lumps on the field while peek is taking lumps on the sideline. give the kid a shot sometime, taking lumps on or off the field is all about the money
... and of course, it only takes one team to draft a player ahead of you, not every team.infantrycak said:Many did not have him that high, but then again some did...
I look at it like Babin is doing well and having him at LOLB has allowed Wong to play ROLB and I believe he is playing better at ROLB than he did at LOLB. In this way, you can look at the Babin pick as a 2 for 1, in the same way Dunte Robinson was a 2 for 1 (Coleman could move to FS).infantrycak said:Prior to the season, I wanted Wong to take Foreman's spot inside at some point and put Peek at ROLB. Problem is Foreman has stepped up his game quite a bit this year.
It's was a really bad no call, but so was the hit on Carr's head by Steve Martin. How tough is it for a ref to figure out that you have to pay attention to former players hitting the QB in the head. The worst call, though, was the phantom holding call on Chester Pitts in overtime after the nice change of pace run by Davis, IMO.infantrycak said:By the way, was it just me or did Babin get completely raped by the refs not calling holding on the 1st Moss TD?
No, its all about experience, and coming off a 5 win season. We aren't going anywhere this year realistically, so we are giving him snaps to learn his position just like we have done with Carr. This is all about experience, not money. We will push hard for the playoffs next season and Babin will have an entire year of seasoning and film to study in the offseason.georgewashington said:exactly, it took suggs time just like it will babin. not many rookies should be playing every snap, there is more to learning than taking lumps. and once again he is allowed to take his lumps on the field while peek is taking lumps on the sideline. give the kid a shot sometime, taking lumps on or off the field is all about the money