Babin Being Babin

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  1. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

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    Looking at Babin's history with the Texans, it's hard to argue the fact that he was screwed around in past years.........used to the 4-3 in college, drafted as a OLB in a 3-4........used as an end in the 3-4............finally, returned to his natural position, the end in a 4-3. Seems like this last change would be an easy transition, but those familiar with such a situation understand that this RE-transition can be frustrating, like starting all over again.........getting reacclimated to the position, angle of pursuit, technique and "mindset" in general. Evidently, good coaching now and a "home" position and renewed hope is getting Babin back to his "hammer" reputation. Read the article:

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  2. BattleRedToro

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    I don't remember ever seeing Babin used as a 3-4 DE.
     
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    I like Megan's story except that she left out one very important factor
    in Babin's scenario for playing time with the Texans this year. He's got a
    much more formidible player than Antwaan Peek to compete with for playing time at weakside DE in the form of #1 team-project Mario Williams.
    Same thing at strong-side with Anthony Weaver though to a lesser degree, though that may end up being Babins home but only in passing situations ?
     
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    I think Babin is going to continue to be better at rushing the passer than Williams, from that one position on the weak side--partly because Babin is just more geared toward pass rush than run-stopping (when on the line) and partly because Babin is just getting to be that age. I think part of what we're seeing here is that players like Babin and TJ are finally getting it. It takes time to become a good player in the NFL (for most), and then there's those transitions they've had to make. I suspect that Williams will be a HUGE threat to the run game this year, and get more sacks; but, I don't see him exactly setting any records for sack totals for at least a few more years. Babin is our sack specialist, and we will need him at WDE in passing situations.

    As much talent as there is there, I don't see Okoye making any huge waves for a few years either.
     
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    Exactly true. People seemed to expect a kid from Directional Michigan to come in and be Lawrence Taylor (as a converted DE no less) from week 1.
     
  6. CloakNNNdagger

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    If Babin plays the strong side in obvious passing situations, the play may be changed at the line from "obvious" to run. One of the LBs or DBs will still need to be assigned to "hawk" that side for the run, or we could be burned more than you would think.
     
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    I feel that Babin will have a good year, if heathy.

    With the defense sporting Williams, Ryans, and Okoye as a threat at any time, it should allow for other players to get some significant plays.

    This should be an exciting season.
     
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    I liked the article, and like most here, would like to see Babin excel with our team. He, like most of our picks in past drafts, represents 'failure' to those outside the organization.

    Being almost exclusively 'all' defensive picks, the drafts of the past should represent one thing...a 'nitty-gritty, blue collar, bust-you-in-the-face mask' team. With the right mix of coaching and leadership within the team (Ryans and Schaub) this Texans team should start to make the rest of the league take notice.

    Then of course, I'm a :homer: , and being that :homer:, I tend to see things in a more favorable light. Hard for me to be critical of those I support.
     


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    If teams want to run at Babin on 3rd and 10, let them. I'm pretty sure we'll win that battle more often than not.
     
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    Exactly...

    If it were that easy people would never pass against the Colts...
     
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    The reason Freeney can rush up field constantly is that the Indy linebackers do an outstanding job of covering the gap he leaves.
     
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    I really want to like Babin, but I've always got the feeling that he's in between positions. Smaller than most ends, but bigger than most 4-3 linebackers. I'm just not convinced that he's going to be a long term answer on this team, but obviously time will tell and I hope he does work out for us.

    Thankfully, he doesn't seem to have the pressure of being associated with a first round pick. He's been given a lot of excuses/reasons, so at least the fans aren't screaming for his head on a platter at the moment.
     
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    thats why he is called a 'tweener'. :splits: I thought he was easily the most impressive linemen last week.
     
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    I think being drafted with TJ takes the pressure off him. He is kind of the forgotten "other defensive lineman" drafted that same year who was supposed to make a huge impact. Guy never did, but he's showing more promise than a lot of players, and the team has found a use for him, so I'm all for it.
     
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    I was made fun of when I said early on that in situational pass rush he could record 10 sacks.This maybe a little high but I thought on passing downs and the consentration of other players he could record it.
     
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    I don't know what they're planning, but I would never put Babin on the strong side. He's an undersized, more of a pass-rusher, even on the weak side. I'd put him on the weak side and move Mario wherever he's needed. If it's not in his best interest to play multiple positions, then we just stick the best pass rusher in at WDE in obvious pass situations, which is Babin until proven otherwise. Mario can move, or he can sit down. Whatever.
     
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    more
     
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    I believe that this is entirely possible if Mario and Okoye demand the attention that we all hope they will.
     
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    Babin was drafted with Dunta Robinson in 2004, not with Travis Johnson in 2005.
     

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