Atlantis Casino first book to release 2013 NFL season win totals

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  1. Heath Shuler

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    Atlantis Casino first book to release 2013 NFL season win totals

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    It's way early and tough to find value, but I think the Ravens have a hard time getting to 10 wins.
     
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    Betting the over on the Eagles seems like a safe bet.
     
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    Giants at 9 seems like prime picking for the OVER.

    Colts at 8 seems like the right number. They were extremely lucky last season and I think they're very similar to the Titans coming into last season; a team that overachieved the previous season that some like to go out on a limb for. They'll finish right in that 7-9 win range.
     
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    Even in the years the Giants win the Superbowl they don't always pay off a regular season over 9 bet. Agree with you on Indy: I was hoping they would come out at something like 10.5 - then I was going to mortgage the house to the hilt and put everything on the under.

    I would say the best bets are: Dal under 8.5, Jax under 4.5, KC over 6.5, and NO over 9.5.
     
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    Over 4.5 -140
    Under 4.5 +110

    Free money.
     
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    Yes, I think these are both dead cinch locks.
     
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    I think the under 6.5. The Eagles are the last place team in a tough division with a 1st time NFL coach. It will take time for Kelly to figure out the league and what he can and can't do.

    Vikings at 7.5 looks like a misprint. Definitely over. The Cards should go over 6 with a real QB. I like Tampa Bay and Carolina to go over 6.5 in what could be a free for all in the NFC south. I would never take an over on 12 (Pack and Broncos). And even 5.5 looks unattainable for a team as bad as the Raiders.
     
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    I know it's crazy but I've totally sworn off the cowgirls; either for or against, they always seem to screw me either way.
     


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    Lock of the Year you say? :jam:
     
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    Eagles - no idea. I don't think they are a lock for last - Jerrah's team is in that fight.

    I think Vikings at 7.5 is reasonable; like Indy they are regressing in the win total. Vikings don't play the Texans, so no All-Pro performances by Ponder this season. Peterson is great, but will he be better?

    How are the Cards suppose to get a real QB? I thought they had Carson Palmer. Hopefully Skeleton is still there. Maybe we can trade 'em Stephen McGee.

    I agree with the never over on a 12. If they go 12-4 : great season! You push and win nothing. The odds of being at least 13-3 are too slim.

    Yeah, Raiders may be fighting Jags for the 1st pick. Almost the inverse theory of don't pick over 12 would be don't pick under 4.5, but clearly the Jags (probably Raiders also) are looking to next years draft for a QB. If they are on pace to win 5 games or more the owner will not be pleased.
     
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    What do those + and - figures represent??
     
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    the odds i.e.

    for the jags if you bet $100 on the under you'll win $110 if they win 4 or less (meaning you'll get back 210 in total including your stake)

    if you bet the jags over, you have to bet 140 to win 100 (-140). if the odds $100 to win $140

    it means the over has been bet more heavily for the jags so the bookies want to make the under bet more attractive
     
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    These are original lines set by this casino; the first one to come out with NFL football odds for this season.
    They are not influenced by any bet, because people can't bet until the house proposes the odds.

    Odds proposed by other casinos that will soon come out may be influenced by these odds.
     
  14. Heath Shuler

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    The + is the underdog (or the less likely an event will happen)
    The – is the favorite (or the more likely an event will happen)

    For example:
    +150 means if you bet $100 you win $150
    -130 means you have to bet $130 to win $100




    Edit: lol it looks like Maddict & 76 replied while I was; So you should have lots of info
     
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    In this example, the casino tells us they think it's easier for the Jags to win five game or more.
    So if you want to bet on the Jags to win 5 games or more, you have to wager $140 to win $100.
    If the Jags win 5 or more, you take him $100.
    If the Jags win 4 or less, you lose $140

    They also want the bettors to think that's there's less of a chance for the Jags to win only 4 games at the most.
    Here, you bet $100 for a possible pay out of $110.
    If the Jags win 4 or fewer, you win $110
    If the Jags win 5 or more, you lose $100
     
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    Below are the 2012 stats for Carson Palmer and an AFC playoff QB who will remain nameless. Tell me which one is a "real QB".

    4018 yds - 61% - 22 TDs - 14 INTs
    4008 yds - 64% - 22 TDs - 12 INTs
     
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    And to take it further, here's the Super Bowl winning QB and a QB that didn't make the playoffs:
    3817 yds - 59.7% - 22 TD - 10 INT
    4903 yds - 65.6% - 28 TD - 19 INT

    I know QB seems important to a lot of people, but there's much more to this game than who's under center.
     
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    Just FYI for anyone who is into these things, I bet the Texans to win the SB this weekend and got 15/1 at the MGM. Most places I saw were 10/1.

    I bet them last year at I believe 12/1.
     
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    I bet them last year too. I had this odd run of two years in a row in which I told a friend who I thought would win that year. It was the Steelers and then the Saints, or vise versa. Ever since, I have betted on the winner pre-season and have been wrong. IF ONLY I HAD BET THOSE FIRST TWO YEARS!
     
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    Cleveland Browns

    Over 5 +120
    Under 5 -150

    With a schedule like theirs this is a easy bet.... but the house agrees
     

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